200L stocking help

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Hi, currently have 200L with:
1x bristlenose pleco
7x rosy Barb
10x black neon tetra
6x Armano shrimp

Was hoping to add some more fish but not sure what and if I even have space. Was thinking maybe panda corys or kuhli loach but not sure with the rosys, though they are quite happy just chasing each other and don’t bother anyone else.
I like the black neons but they are pretty hard to see sometimes so hoping to add a bit more life but obviously don’t want to overstock!

Appreciate any help or ideas of fish that would work. Thanks
 
You have space depending upon several factors. First is the tank dimensions. Second, what are the source water parameters, here meaning GH and pH and temperature.

I'll mention the temperature as you have the Rosy Barbs already. This species, Pethia conchonius, prefers cooler temperatures than normal tropical community aquaria. A range of 18-23C/64-74F, no higher. At 73-74F/22-23C the black neons are at their lowest end of their range.

What substrate (sand, gravel) do you have, as many substrate fish will need sand so this may be a factor.
 
We have soft water, can’t quite remember the number, possibly 7/8 and pH is 7/7-5.
I have the temp at 23 and everyone seems happy but I am aware I don’t have much room to play with (the rosy barbs were probably a wrong addition in hindsight but I made the mistake of asking in the shop). Also have sand
Thank you
 
OK, there are good options here. Many fish are fine (if not better) at this range in temperature. For example, since you have one barb species, there are several others (provided you stay with the smaller like the Rosy and peaceful ones); or some of the tetras. You have sand, so that opens up substrate fish possibilities, like a group of Corydoras (these love the cooler temperatures).
 
Happy to know the temp is good!
I like cherry barbs and most tetras, would any stick with the black neons or would they shoal separately?
Or would 6 panda corys be better?
How many fish do you think I could add? I don’t want to push it to too many.
Thanks
 
This raises a couple important issues, both concerning numbers.

As I frequently write, many of us get hung up on numbers vs tank size. While one does not want to have more fish than the tank's biological system can support, this is not the real issue nor is it even the primary issue. If we choose species "x" we are obligated to ensure it is going to have what it needs to be stress-free. Stress is the cause of over 90% of all aquarium fish disease issues. So avoiding it is crucial to fish's well-being and health. If species "x" needs a group, it must be provided with a group. If this exceeds the tank's biological capability, then don't get species "x" but something else.

That brings me to the second numbers issue. Shoaling/schooling fish need a group of their own species. This is a mandatory need, they expect to be in a group, they depend upon the group for security which means a lot less stress. Some species also have hierarchy needs, others have interactive behaviours that to the fish are critical to survival, and these have to be considered too. All shoaling/schooling species will always be healthier with 10 or more than they will with five or six. There are scientific studies now proving this, though many of us have recognized it for years. This is part of the genetic makeup of each species. It applies to all characins (tetras, pencilfish, hatchetfish), many catfish (cories for example), all rasboras, barbs, danios, loaches, rainbowfishes, and some others.

You have 10 black neons, so they should be well adjusted. Any shoaling/schooling fish you acquire will need 10-12 minimum. Panda cories are mentioned, so a group of 10+ is needed. You can mix cory species, they all chum around together, though it is still a good idea to have a few of each species. I have had these fish for more than 20 years, and several species because of being unable to buy more than sometimes one or two, or three of certain species, but it was very obvious that those who had five or six of their own did like to spend time together, or in smaller numbered groups of their own, while also socializing well at other times in groups of two or three different species. I would recommend five or six of each species, with two or three species, or all the same...point is, that 12-15 even 20 is a doable number here.
 
Ah ok, that’s very interesting, so many sites say 5-6 and they will be happy so I’m glad I asked.
I will start looking around for corys and aim for a large group of a couple of species. Maybe I should add a few more rosy barbs as I have 7 of those, so get them to at least 10.

Thank you very much for your help.
 
Ah ok, that’s very interesting, so many sites say 5-6 and they will be happy so I’m glad I asked.
I will start looking around for corys and aim for a large group of a couple of species. Maybe I should add a few more rosy barbs as I have 7 of those, so get them to at least 10.

Thank you very much for your help.

You're very welcome. How long have the barbs been together?
 
Sorry forgot to ask, would that many corys bother the bristlenose pleco?
 
I think about a year now, the tetras about a year and a half

If you like the barb you can get more--obviously you like the fish, but I discourage people from acquiring fish they don't really want--and should not have a problem, this is not a noted feisty species where a relationship can be quickly built across the individuals and adding more of them later can be a real problem. At the same time, 7 of this species are not as likely to tear into each other for lack of three more, as does happen with several other species. And numbers are subjective, 1 more or 1 less, or 2 more, etc, will not always mean trouble. You do have to be careful though. There is also their size, attaining usually 3 inches though there are sources who suggest five and six inches. They are settled in this tank at 7.

Sorry forgot to ask, would that many corys bother the bristlenose pleco?

No. Make sure there is a chunk of real wood (as opposed to plastic or something) so the BN can graze it and satisfy the digestive bacterial issues. A crevice or tunnel in the wood will also provide his "home." May already have done this.
 
Thanks, that makes sense, think I will leave them as they are - I do like them but probably wouldn’t be my first choice if I could start over.

there is wood in for the BN and she has her favourite hiding space. She is probably around 6 now so don’t want to upset her!
 

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