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    Help With Bottom Feeder For My 10G Tank

    I Got a black mystery snail my lfs did not have any nerites. Ive put him in the tank but he has not moved, he has been in about 2hrs so maybe he is just getting use to everything before he comes out.
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    Help With Bottom Feeder For My 10G Tank

    Do you think my betta would be ok with the snail? I know he can't eat it like he did the shrimp, just wonder about attacking the snail?
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    Help With Bottom Feeder For My 10G Tank

    Well i don't really over feed them usually what i give them the seven fish has it gone within two min or less, but sometimes a few small peices falls to bottom before they get it. I crumble the flakes up real fine. I almost got a mystery snail at lfs other day but decided to try the cherry...
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    Help With Bottom Feeder For My 10G Tank

    Well the shrimp just don't seem to be working. The eight cherry shrimp i got and put in there with a shrimp hide is not working, I have 4 left out of the 8! I actually watched my betta attack one in front of my eyes! I thought about snails but i do not like the fact they put out a lot of waste...
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    Help With Bottom Feeder For My 10G Tank

    Hi folks my lhs was out of ghost shrimp and they wasn't sure when they would get more. So ive ordered 8 cherry shrimp and a shrimp hide cube house so hopefully they will work out better that the ghost shrimp. We will see.
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    Help With Bottom Feeder For My 10G Tank

    Ok so acording to Name Removed if i add 3 cory catfish that will put me at 98% stocked with doing a 25% wc a week, which i already do a 50% wc a week. So should i just go with 3 corys or should i just go the ghost shrimp route again and just get a big number of them like 6 or 8??
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    Help With Bottom Feeder For My 10G Tank

    I have my 10g tank cycled and running with a betta and 6 rasboras, they are all doing great! I would like a bottom feeder to go with those, I had 2 ghost shrimp in there but i found them dead,the betta probably killed them. Are there any other better choices of bottom feeders that would work for...
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    ok folks heres the deal I got a pump and done a 100% complete wc. I bought a new ammonia test kit in case my other was bad. I didn't use my prime i used my reg top fin dechlor 2 drops per every gal i put in per info on bottle. Then before anything was done i tested ammonia, ph, and high ph...
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    Ive sent you a PM. And i agree im getting alot of conflicting advice that i dont know what to beleive or do. Thanks for your help!
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    ok so maybe the mistake came from somewhere else who knows. All i know is i want my tank to cycle. So what should i do? Get as much water as i can out get ammonia to around 3ppm and let it go without adding anything else until ammonia drops then i know i have to dose again then?
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    Well what im trying to say now is that the safe start i added at the beginning of the cycle and two weeks ago when i done a water change is probably what shot the level to high since its in a ammonia solution to start with. Those were added without really any drop in ammonia from my previously...
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    ok im little confused here, You saying that i have to use something else with the ammonia to start the bacteria? I was under the impression from the article you stated which ive read 100 times already :-) That once ammonia was added that it would cteat bacteria without anything else.
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    I appreciate the help. Also will the 2ppm ammonia thats still there now not cause new bacteria to grow? If not the best thing to do is start completely over. But ive got to find a way to get all my water out since i do not have any kind of pump right now.
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    Let me ask this, is what i done yesterday with the wcs to get my ammonia down to what is now approx 2ppm not like starting over? I mean it has the ammonia still in there and now at the reccomened level and im not adding anymore ammonia to make it go back up. my Ph is 7.6 and my temp is 84° So...
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    I have a filter. I never said i didnt have one. Tap water has .25 ammonia and 0 nitrates It rose but only after i added safe start. See this could very well be the problem also. I added ssfe start but i added it with the ammonia level already high which was my mistake for not getting it to...
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    Alright after last wc i finally have ammonia down to 2 possibly 1ppm. What do you recommend me do now just wait it out or do i need to dose a bit to get it to 3ppm? I sure dont wont to screw it up again now that ive gotten ammonia down. Should this get my cycle going now that i have it down or...
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    I just went ahead and done one more wc close to 80% to see if i can get ammonia on down to what it should be. If i can get it to 3ppm or a tad less that may be all it needs to get it going?
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    my Ph in both are 7.6. Also i put exactly 20 drops of 10% ammonia in using a standard medicine dropper. Im not trying to say i didnt make a mistake somewhere cause obvisously i have but ive tried to do everything exactly by the book, thats why all this has me so confused, I can't figure out...
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    so you saying to do more wcs to get ammonia down to the 3ppm mark and it should restart everything? Also if i get it down to 3ppm from the wc i will not add anymore until it drops from the bacteria.
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    so if i get my ammonia level down to appropriate level with wc will that not get the cycle back started?
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    here is the pic of results after the big 75% wc
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    Ok this is about hour and half after 75% wc. here are my readings. Ammonia may have went down a tad, Ph 7.6, nitrite 0, nitrates went down to around 20ppm. It is blowing my mind that ammonia is not dropping much after that big of a wc!! The only thing i can think of is I must of absolutly...
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    ok what i decided to do and have just done, was about a 75% wc to see if my ammonia got down to around 1ppm or so If it did Im gonna wait another week or so to see if it drops on its own from there. If it doesnt then im gonna do another wc to get the ammonia to .25 or 0 and do i fish in cycle if...
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    If you read carefully I do tell in these post what size tank I have and what my Ph and other readings were. Only ones not mentioned are gh and kh because i do not have those test kits. I also mentioned i use prime as my dechlor because someone else asked the same things.
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    ok only thing i added was safe start to kick off bacteria, no ph up or down. I have no way of testing gh and kh as i dont have that kit. I have no filter media cause i couldnt get ahold of any my tank is a 10g. This has been so frustrating and thats why im about to do a complete wc and go with a...
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    im using a filter my water level is lower so it hits and bubbles the water. The test kit has 2016 yr date on it. Im hitting and shaking the fool out of the nitrate test and yes following all others to a T. Also im using pure ace hardware ammonia the 10% kind that doesnt fizz when shook. Whats...
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    api master kit and yes i have right now one anubias and one aspongtus(sp)
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    added 20 drops to bring it to 4ppm and havent added another drop in 4 weeks, its a 10g tank. I have read just about everything on cycling, i have heater at 84° water level is lower so it aggitates for bubbles. The Ph is 7.6 and ive changed total about 75%
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    Still Having Trouble With Fishless Cycle!

    It has been right at 4 weeks now since i first started. Ive been checking ammonia and nitrites daily with no change what so ever. 4ppm ammonia and 0 nitrites. I tested nitrates today and they look to be about 40 or 80ppm hard to tell with those two colors. I am just puzzeled as to after all this...
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    Please Help With Cycle Issue, Need To Know What To Do!

    OK here is where I'm at, I did one more big WC and I now have my ammonia down to 1.5-2ppm. Now should I just. put a bottle of bacteria starter in after a day or two and then just wait and test everyday for nitrites to show up? Im not sure I can get any media. So I need something to kick start...
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    Please Help With Cycle Issue, Need To Know What To Do!

    Did another WC to try and get ammonia down low enough for me to dump another bottle of bacteria in wether that be one and only or TSS but it still isn't dropping. That makes three wcs now without a drop. This is so confusing because my tap only has .25ppm in it. So why is it not dropping? And...
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    Please Help With Cycle Issue, Need To Know What To Do!

    Where can I find on here the instructions I should follow for TSS?
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    Please Help With Cycle Issue, Need To Know What To Do!

    And see I believe it was my fault this time with TSS because the ammonia was 4ppm when I dumped it in and I think it just killed off the bacteria.
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    Please Help With Cycle Issue, Need To Know What To Do!

    One other thing I can get TSS at LFS and half the price without ordering. I was thinking it looks to do the same thing as one and only. Why not me just do water change now to get my current ammonia of 4ppm down to about 2ppm, let it run with new declor water for 24hrs then dump bottle of TSS in...
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    Please Help With Cycle Issue, Need To Know What To Do!

    so I got a whole bottle of pure ace hardware ammonia, I can't use it with one and only as my ammonia source?
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    Please Help With Cycle Issue, Need To Know What To Do!

    Also am I reading right that you get the ammonia when you buy the one and only?
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    Please Help With Cycle Issue, Need To Know What To Do!

    Thanks! This I think is a great idea and what I may want to try. Here is a question with my ammonia level now will it get low enough after I do a water change at say 90%? Also the declor I'm using is the top fin brand and it doesn't say if it detoxifies or not.
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