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Context : ever since I saved Angel from terrible conditions he has changed colors over time. i got him as a pale white betta and over time changed to a slight red color that are shown throughout his fins.

— Recently I have noticed that Angel has developed a red spot in his body .. I don’t know whether it is his coloring or something to be concerned about. This spot is seen on both sides of his body but more visibly on the right side. he is acting normal and seems to be fine and temperatures are good.

Currently Angel seems to be developing red scales on the top of his head as well but they are still coming in. I am assuming it is just from his coloration too.

I have pictures below for those who want to see
 

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He looks like he bruised himself. The scales are still there but there is some swelling. If it does not swell too much and burst it will be good.

Since it is reddish I would think of a small internal bleeding for the moment. Keep in check for any inflation.
 
I'd agree with @MaloK and say it's a concern. I don't know if it's a bruise, but it is a cyst, a sore or a small growth. Hopefully, it's nothing serious, and something you only really notice because of his light base colour.

There's isn't anything you can do about it, as it's internal. Keep the weekly water changes coming and see how he does...
 
GaryE said:
I'd agree with @MaloK and say it's a concern. I don't know if it's a bruise, but it is a cyst, a sore or a small growth. Hopefully, it's nothing serious, and something you only really notice because of his light base colour.

There's isn't anything you can do about it, as it's internal. Keep the weekly water changes coming and see how he does...
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Thanks for letting me know, I currently have some tannins in his water
 
It is incredibly hard to tell wether Angel has something threatening or not since he is growing a red colorin his body Often. i can’t tell if it’s blood or his natural color which confuses me every time.

—- I have noticed Angel has developed a red color in his back area. I have noticed this pattern when his color change was rising few months back when I got him but the back color barely showed Until now.

I notice that whenever I have tannins in the water and a cleaned tank he somehow every time develops his red color at least somewhere. So it could be either that or something else.

I have images below , One is the original photo and the other is a edited version where you can see the color more since it’s not that noticeable on camera

My description of it is that there is red colors showing in/under his scales / at the ends of the scales
 

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One of my bettas has developed in the past 2 weeks a red spot that seems to be internal. I just thought this was a color change but it seems to have been affected / infected.


- my betta has been sick lately , his “red spot” has turned fuzzy/puffy/soft (best way I can explain) like a layer of something I’m not sure … I don’t know wether the spot is healing or getting worse, if anyone knows about this please help.

My betta refuses to eat and sits at the bottom of the tank hiding or in a corner. I am really concerned so please help.

One of my brothers when I was gone for vacation took care of my fish and decided that my tank needed a clean so he did a 100% water change …. Without me knowing. So I have to test my waters , which I will do soon as possible since I currently don’t have test strips.

I will provide a picture below ; the puffiness is on his red spot that he has had.
 

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A big water change isn't a problem if the new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine and has a similar temperature, pH and GH to the tank water.

Ask your brother if he dechlorinated the new water.

Ask him if he cleaned or changed the filter media/ material. If he did, you could have ammonia or nitrite in the water, which might be why the fish has stopped eating.

Ask him if he used any cleaning products when he cleaned it and that includes what buckets and hoses he used.

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The sore could be a bacterial or fungal infection, it's hard to tell if it has fungus due to the colour. You can try salt for a week but if that doesn't help you will need to try a broad spectrum medication that treats bacteria and fungus.

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SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), swimming pool salt, or any non iodised salt (sodium chloride) to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres (5 gallons) of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for 1 to 2 weeks. If there's no improvement after 1 week, stop using it, post more pictures, and look for a broad spectrum medication.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria, fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

If you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish.

When you first add salt, add the salt to a small bucket of tank water and dissolve the salt. Then slowly pour the salt water into the tank near the filter outlet. Add the salt over a couple of minutes.
 
Wash your hands after every contact with the water, and avoid doing anything in the tank if you have open cuts. That looks to me like a possible Mycobacter infection - a 100% fatal, untreatable problem that is very common in fancy Bettas from pet stores. It is impossible to say for sure without a laboratory, but that does have the lesion shape, and you describe a possible fish tuberculosis case.

In very rare cases, with immune compromised people, it can jump the species barrier and become an annoying skin infection that needs a lot of antibiotics to cure. There are lots of things we can catch from pets, but this is the one big one from fish, so it's better to be safe than sorry.

It's no use trying to treat it - the bacterium can survive bleach. I hate to be the bearer of bad possibilities, but I would be very cautious, as a person who caught the disease, had it cured and consider that I learned about it the hard way.
 
Colin_T said:
A big water change isn't a problem if the new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine and has a similar temperature, pH and GH to the tank water.

Ask your brother if he dechlorinated the new water.

Ask him if he cleaned or changed the filter media/ material. If he did, you could have ammonia or nitrite in the water, which might be why the fish has stopped eating.

Ask him if he used any cleaning products when he cleaned it and that includes what buckets and hoses he used.

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The sore could be a bacterial or fungal infection, it's hard to tell if it has fungus due to the colour. You can try salt for a week but if that doesn't help you will need to try a broad spectrum medication that treats bacteria and fungus.

-------------------

SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), swimming pool salt, or any non iodised salt (sodium chloride) to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres (5 gallons) of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for 1 to 2 weeks. If there's no improvement after 1 week, stop using it, post more pictures, and look for a broad spectrum medication.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria, fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

If you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish.

When you first add salt, add the salt to a small bucket of tank water and dissolve the salt. Then slowly pour the salt water into the tank near the filter outlet. Add the salt over a couple of minutes.
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Hi
Colin_T said:
A big water change isn't a problem if the new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine and has a similar temperature, pH and GH to the tank water.

Ask your brother if he dechlorinated the new water.

Ask him if he cleaned or changed the filter media/ material. If he did, you could have ammonia or nitrite in the water, which might be why the fish has stopped eating.

Ask him if he used any cleaning products when he cleaned it and that includes what buckets and hoses he used.

-------------------

The sore could be a bacterial or fungal infection, it's hard to tell if it has fungus due to the colour. You can try salt for a week but if that doesn't help you will need to try a broad spectrum medication that treats bacteria and fungus.

-------------------

SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt), swimming pool salt, or any non iodised salt (sodium chloride) to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres (5 gallons) of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for 1 to 2 weeks. If there's no improvement after 1 week, stop using it, post more pictures, and look for a broad spectrum medication.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria, fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

If you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish.

When you first add salt, add the salt to a small bucket of tank water and dissolve the salt. Then slowly pour the salt water into the tank near the filter outlet. Add the salt over a couple of minutes.
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hi, yes he did de-chlorinate the water and has cleaned the filter.

The spot had a soft fluffy look with a slight yellow colour, as of today there seems to be some slight blood to be incorporated. I will attempt to use talk but will also see some medicine if you have any reccomended.
 
GaryE said:
Wash your hands after every contact with the water, and avoid doing anything in the tank if you have open cuts. That looks to me like a possible Mycobacter infection - a 100% fatal, untreatable problem that is very common in fancy Bettas from pet stores. It is impossible to say for sure without a laboratory, but that does have the lesion shape, and you describe a possible fish tuberculosis case.

In very rare cases, with immune compromised people, it can jump the species barrier and become an annoying skin infection that needs a lot of antibiotics to cure. There are lots of things we can catch from pets, but this is the one big one from fish, so it's better to be safe than sorry.

It's no use trying to treat it - the bacterium can survive bleach. I hate to be the bearer of bad possibilities, but I would be very cautious, as a person who caught the disease, had it cured and consider that I learned about it the hard way.
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I always handle my bettas with caution and gloves (I have a lot of cuts from my cat) to prevent these from getting to me always. It may be an infection since my fish is infected from one spot, the spot seems light yellow ish and since of today it has some blood incorporated with it.

My poor baby refuses to swim (he is swimming more than before) but struggles to swim and sits at the bottom or is hiding , he refuses food and does not come to me anymore.
 
I'm far from an expert in fish illness,

But I want to offer my observations... It could bring other members new ideas.

1: Fish TB is very, very rare in Bettas.
2: Fish TB affects principally organs, The location of the sore is not near any.
3: The time frame of the occurrence does not concur with TB.
4: The color of the sore does not align with TB for the moment.
5: The initial redness inside the tail seems to have recessed.
6: The color of your betta could make it harder to see a bacterial or fungal infection.
7: TB would not create the bloody streaks on the back of your fish visible in earlier post.

The combination of a soft, fluffy yellowish spot, bleeding, and localized pineconing strongly suggests a fungal infection. The fungus can irritate the scales, causing them to protrude and further infection will cause bloody streaks in the affected region.

Is there more apparent blood streaks on his body ?

Septicemia as a rapid onset. Reddish streaks on body, may show popeye, fin rot possible, rapid and severe appetite loss, lethargic behaviors, possible skin ulceration, rapid developing swimming disorder caused by weakness.

Fish TB as a slow onset, Less commonly include popeye or skin ulcers, gradual appetite loss, Lethargy, listlessness, wasting, less common popping eyes, skin ulceration may develop often reddish or brownish in color, slow developing swimming disorder caused by disrupted buoyancy control.

It could be Septicemia and Parasites and/or Bacteria that infected the bruised region.

Confirming the cause would really require inspection by a professional.

But from all your posts... I don't think it's TB.
 
MaloK said:
I'm far from an expert in fish illness,

But I want to offer my observations... It could bring other members new ideas.

1: Fish TB is very, very rare in Bettas.
2: Fish TB affects principally organs, The location of the sore is not near any.
3: The time frame of the occurrence does not concur with TB.
4: The color of the sore does not align with TB for the moment.
5: The initial redness inside the tail seems to have recessed.
6: The color of your betta could make it harder to see a bacterial or fungal infection.
7: TB would not create the bloody streaks on the back of your fish visible in earlier post.

The combination of a soft, fluffy yellowish spot, bleeding, and localized pineconing strongly suggests a fungal infection. The fungus can irritate the scales, causing them to protrude and further infection will cause bloody streaks in the affected region.

Is there more apparent blood streaks on his body ?

Septicemia as a rapid onset. Reddish streaks on body, may show popeye, fin rot possible, rapid and severe appetite loss, lethargic behaviors, possible skin ulceration, rapid developing swimming disorder caused by weakness.

Fish TB as a slow onset, Less commonly include popeye or skin ulcers, gradual appetite loss, Lethargy, listlessness, wasting, less common popping eyes, skin ulceration may develop often reddish or brownish in color, slow developing swimming disorder caused by disrupted buoyancy control.

It could be Septicemia and Parasites and/or Bacteria that infected the bruised region.

Confirming the cause would really require inspection by a professional.

But from all your posts... I don't think it's TB.
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I do believe he has a fungal infection because he has all of the symptoms for it, there are no other blood streaks on his body as of now. If there are any treatments for these please let me know
 
Can you post a video of the fish as of today's condition ?

This could help everyone.
 
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