Angelfish Injury/Sore

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I don’t know if this constitutes an emergency, but I don’t know what this is. I was gone for a week and I came back to find my prize angelfish with this unknown spot on his upper body into his fin. Could anyone help identify what this is? None of the other fish in the tank are showing anything like it.
 

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That nitrate is very high. It should be kept below 10.
Yeah, well I have nitrates in my tap water so I can only do so much and I haven’t changed my water yet this week. It stays below 50 and I don’t have a big algae problem. So, while I know it’s elevated, that doesn’t help answer my original question.
 
Yeah, well I have nitrates in my tap water so I can only do so much and I haven’t changed my water yet this week. It stays below 50 and I don’t have a big algae problem. So, while I know it’s elevated, that doesn’t help answer my original question.
Its not just about algae. Its unhealthy for the fish to be in water with more than 10ppm nitrate. 20ppm at the most
 
Its not just about algae. Its unhealthy for the fish to be in water with more than 10ppm nitrate. 20ppm at the most
I’m not debating what the nitrate levels should or shouldn’t be, when out of the tap they are 10ppm. I just asked if anyone could help identify what the spot is on my fish. If you are suggesting the nitrates are the cause of that spot, then I’m all ears, but that seems unlikely to me.
 
I’m not debating what the nitrate levels should or shouldn’t be, when out of the tap they are 10ppm. I just asked if anyone could help identify what the spot is on my fish. If you are suggesting the nitrates are the cause of that spot, then I’m all ears, but that seems unlikely to me.
I think that its a possibly due to the poor water quality. Ive also heard of plecos sucking the side of a fish while its sleeping...
 
I think that its a possibly due to the poor water quality. Ive also heard of plecos sucking the side of a fish while its sleeping...
40 ppm nitrate level is hardly poor water quality considering the rest of the parameters are right where they should be, the PH is always stable, the rest of the fish are fine, my live plants are thriving, and the angels just laid eggs 8 days ago.
 
There is a clear misunderstanding in this thread concerning the harmful/detrimental effects of nitrate. Like ammonia and nitrite, nitrate is poisonous to all fish; the habitat waters of all species we keep in aquaria are so close to zero they usually cannot be measured, so fish have evolved to function without nitrate (if that makes sense). With nitrate, the effect is slower, and it depends upon the species, the level of nitrate, and the exposure time. Cichlids are especially sensitive to nitrate, and it should always be well below 20 ppm. If you consult the cichlid authorities now they will confirm this. Dr. Neale Monks advises that the main effect of nitrate is a slow weakening of the fish, and following that other issues which the fish would/should be able to easily deal with become serious and usually fatal in time. During most of his, especially the early stages, the fish will show no symptoms.

Nitrate in the source water is a problem for several members. Ten is not that high, but of course the biological processes in the aquarium will add to the nitrate, unless significant steps are taken. Our member @AbbeysDad has battled high nitrates in the source water, above 40 ppm if memory serves me, and he has information on his blog as to how you can deal with this.


To the specific issue on the base of the dorsal fin, I will leave for our more experienced members (I have been lucky to have so few issues over 30 years, and I would only be guessing). @Colin_T
 
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First off I am not an expert on fish diseases or cures. In spite of the my first sentence, the fish looks to be otherwise healthy, Picture #3 shows the wound pretty good. The one thing I would note is that the wound is through the base of the rays, and is ringed by a reddish fringe, if this is similar on the opposite side of the fish then I would suggest the wound is infected. Part of the issue is the location, bacteria can spread down the ray and to the spine of the fish. I also see either erosion of the ray base or damage to the ray which could be an indication of infection in the ray. My discussion is based on experience with hatchery trout.

In either case my initial reaction would be to ensure that the tank is as clean as possible, water change, and constant monitoring, if the wound doesn't show signs of improving soon you will have to step up your game, and that is where @Byron and @Colin_T would fit in.
 

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