More bottom dwellers?

Rocky998

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So most of you know already know that I have a 20 gallon high stocked with two peacock gudgeons at the moment... Sense I cant add on to the gudgeons, I was wondering if I could add to the bottom layer of fish (not now of course). Maybe some cories or kuhli poached (not both obviously)... Now I dont know if I could do this with the lambchops as well, as it may be overstocking the tank... Thanks in advance!
 
So most of you know already know that I have a 20 gallon high stocked with two peacock gudgeons at the moment... Sense I cant add on to the gudgeons, I was wondering if I could add to the bottom layer of fish (not now of course). Maybe some cories or kuhli poached (not both obviously)... Now I dont know if I could do this with the lambchops as well, as it may be overstocking the tank... Thanks in advance!
pics of tank?
i could help you improve hardscape so the bottom feeders do not hurt themselves on things
 
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pics of tank?
i could help you improve hardscape so the bottom feeders do not hurt themselves on things
 
yep!
that's pretty good
maybe sand down the rocks
loaches would look cool
The rocks have a few sharp edges but their actually fairly smooth... I would honestly ditch any other dottom fish if I had to take my rocks out and sand them... Wayyyy to much work, maybe that sounds a little selfish but honestly I've had it set up and I'm just done with doing anything that requires taking the rocks out
 
I leave your little guys in their own space for now and concentrate on the middle and upper parts of your tank.
Ywah, I was thinking that but was wondering if wayyy down the road I could get another bottom dweller. I want it to be after I get the other school of fish
 
There are some species of fish that are very particular about their requirements, you have happened to pick one of those fish. It is like Glass catfish or Bumble bee gobies, these guys need to be monitored and an understanding of their behavior needs to be established, then you will be able to decide about what can join them in your tank. They will not take kindly to you just putting another fish in their space that is for real.
 
I am not being personal here so do not take it as such but it bugs me when people say they want to get this or that fish "way down the road" cos 99% of the time they will get the fish a week later regardless of all advice given against it.

Your poor little Gudgeons have had so much stress and hassle since they arrived that they need time and space on their own to settle down properly. They do not need more intruders of any kind to bounce into their home upsetting their already fragile state of health or irritating their sense of territory.

I am sorry but your decision to buy Gudgeons was ill advised, they are very particular fish who need very careful habitat care. They are not beginner fish, tbh I am not even sure they are intermediate fish due to their very precise needs.

Had you researched them properly you probably would never have bought them as they are extremely tough fish to house in a community setting. You may well find that you end up with just the Gudgeons and nothing else in the aquarium. When choosing fish it is absolutely vital to check their habitual needs, not just their water chemistry needs, not every fish is good at being with other species, something I think you have found out the hard way with these fish after they showed their darker and more aggressive side more than once already.

They are lovely little fish, enjoy them and watch them mature, learn about them in all aspects not just the water conditions that they need....they deserve a peacefull and stress free life, not one where new fish are added now or later on "down the road". I shall be blunt....its not their fault that you didn't do all your homework, so they should not suffer for that.

Slow down, research everything....and if mum is there pushing to get more fish cos looking at just the Gudgeons is boring or whatever, tell her no cos the health & welfare of those Gudgeons is the most important thing right now......the LFS should not have sold them to you without you doing substantially more homework on their needs, at the end of the day those fish were just another part of the LFS profit and nothing more than that.
 
I said to my wife the other day about these little fish. If I were going to keep them, it would take me months to get a tank that was ready to have them. And that they are a species only fish, just them by themselves, then they will be happy.
 
I'm sorry Rocky, this is a little rude of me. Can you please fill us in again on the other fish you have kept and your experience with fish? I assume that these are your first fish but I'm not sure that is correct, you have more experience keeping fish than I am giving you credit for. :)
 
I am not being personal here so do not take it as such but it bugs me when people say they want to get this or that fish "way down the road" cos 99% of the time they will get the fish a week later regardless of all advice given against it.

Your poor little Gudgeons have had so much stress and hassle since they arrived that they need time and space on their own to settle down properly. They do not need more intruders of any kind to bounce into their home upsetting their already fragile state of health or irritating their sense of territory.

I am sorry but your decision to buy Gudgeons was ill advised, they are very particular fish who need very careful habitat care. They are not beginner fish, tbh I am not even sure they are intermediate fish due to their very precise needs.

Had you researched them properly you probably would never have bought them as they are extremely tough fish to house in a community setting. You may well find that you end up with just the Gudgeons and nothing else in the aquarium. When choosing fish it is absolutely vital to check their habitual needs, not just their water chemistry needs, not every fish is good at being with other species, something I think you have found out the hard way with these fish after they showed their darker and more aggressive side more than once already.

They are lovely little fish, enjoy them and watch them mature, learn about them in all aspects not just the water conditions that they need....they deserve a peacefull and stress free life, not one where new fish are added now or later on "down the road". I shall be blunt....its not their fault that you didn't do all your homework, so they should not suffer for that.

Slow down, research everything....and if mum is there pushing to get more fish cos looking at just the Gudgeons is boring or whatever, tell her no cos the health & welfare of those Gudgeons is the most important thing right now......the LFS should not have sold them to you without you doing substantially more homework on their needs, at the end of the day those fish were just another part of the LFS profit and nothing more than that.
My mom is definitely not pushing to get fish. I am very lucky to have some understanding parents... And what you said about me adding new fish shortly, no. No. No, and no... I would never add fish in the coming weeks... On this forum, other members, including ones who have these gudgeons or have had them, said that these gudgeons do great in community tanks... Now you may be getting a bit confused with them being territorial amongst themselves, but I have read, seen, and heard that these guys can be with other species just fine... I messed up with trying to add a third one as I thought they would accept them but after further research regarding them I realized they don't just accept members into their groups... They kinda need to be brought in all at once...
I'm sorry Rocky, this is a little rude of me. Can you please fill us in again on the other fish you have kept and your experience with fish? I assume that these are your first fish but I'm not sure that is correct, you have more experience keeping fish than I am giving you credit for. :)
It may hurt a bit sometimes what you say, but I do understand that you have a very careful way of keeping fish... So do I but while you rely more on older information I search for newer and more up to date data on the fish I am getting... I have owned one bettas before this named comet and a mystery snail the shop sold us without asking the tank size... I had a 3.5 gallon tank with white gravel and fake plastic plants... Oh don't worry it gets better 😃... Cause before I got the fish I "cycled" it by throwing some fish food in there and leaving it for three days 😅... I also made sure every week to change out the filter cartridge... Yah, I was a fish keeper's nightmare... I used two meds at once and thought my snail was alive when I used the ich cure... The finrot med was kinda working tho... Yeah it died in less than a month... Now that I'm thinking about it it had to have died in less than two weeks...
There are some species of fish that are very particular about their requirements, you have happened to pick one of those fish. It is like Glass catfish or Bumble bee gobies, these guys need to be monitored and an understanding of their behavior needs to be established, then you will be able to decide about what can join them in your tank. They will not take kindly to you just putting another fish in their space that is for real.
As I researched about these guys a lot of people said they were easy fish to keep... Maybe not as easy as others but still a very simple fish... I have seen these guys kept with forktail rainbowfish and even heard from experienced gudgeons owners that they would be just fine with the rasboras... I may want to do a ranger pleco but I'm not sure... Probably not due to how small they are... That guy may get a bit bullied due to him being near the bottom an rising the gudgeons caves... Prolly not the best fit
 

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