Frogbit or water sprite?

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Currently planning an upcoming 10g betta and ghost shrimp tank. Was wondering whether to get frogbit or water sprite as a floating plant. Frogbit seems more annoying, but maybe more aesthetically pleasing? Does water sprite block less light than frogbit? Does anyone have pics of water sprite used as a floating plant?

If it helps, the other plants I'm considering are dwarf sag, crypt wendtii, hemianthus micranthemiodes, rotala indica(rotundiifolia), maybe some ludwigia repens, and I'll probably throw in a couple juncus repens in the gaps.

Probably medium light, I'm bad at gauging how bright a light is.
 
Betta like to swim at the surface so floaters might look nice but also annoying during feeding. Never kept them but some websites you might be interested in:
What is your pH?
And don't forget snails...
 
I have had both Frogbit and Water Sprite, and also a third very similar, Water Lettuce. Of the three, my favourite is definitely Water Sprite. Once established, new daughter plants will grow on the alternate fronds (= leaves, called fronds here because this is a true fern) and it is easy to extract them as needed and discard the parent plant if you like. Under good conditions, any of these three plants will grow fairly rapidly, which is why they are commonly called "ammonia sinks." Best plants for any aquarium. Anabantids l;ike the betta love Water Sprite because they can forage the dangling root masses for tidbit of food, as they do in their habitats, and the plants make excellent depositories for bubble nests.
 
I have had both Frogbit and Water Sprite, and also a third very similar, Water Lettuce. Of the three, my favourite is definitely Water Sprite. Once established, new daughter plants will grow on the alternate fronds (= leaves, called fronds here because this is a true fern) and it is easy to extract them as needed and discard the parent plant if you like. Under good conditions, any of these three plants will grow fairly rapidly, which is why they are commonly called "ammonia sinks." Best plants for any aquarium. Anabantids l;ike the betta love Water Sprite because they can forage the dangling root masses for tidbit of food, as they do in their habitats, and the plants make excellent depositories for bubble nests.
Water sprite can be planted in the substrate as well, correct?
 
Yes, agree. There are currently five recognized species in this genus, Ceratopteris, and one of them, C. cornuta, is the best when grown floating. It really is a stunning plant. It can be grown rooted in the substrate, but the leaf shape will be quite different, and it requires more intense lighting than when left floating.
 
My profile of this plant which appears on another site may be useful:

Ceratopteris cornuta

Family: Ceratopteridaceae

Common Names: Water Sprite, Indian Fern

Origin: Tropical regions of Africa, Americas, Asia and northern Australia. The ICUN geographic distribution is given as tropical Africa, Iraq to south east and east Asia, and northern Australia. Mainly confined to shallow waters, particularly swamps, pools and ponds.

Ideal position in aquarium

Best used as a floating plant, but can be grown rooted in the substrate.

Lighting requirements

When left floating will grow well under any light that is not too bright; submersed plants grown in the substrate require moderate to high light.

Growth rate

Moderate to rapid.

Minimum Tank Suggestion

Suitable for any aquarium. It is easy to keep under control by detaching some or all of the daughter plants and floating them, while discarding the large parent plant.

Water parameters

Soft to moderately hard (hardness up to 18 dGH), acidic to basic (pH 5.4 to 8) water, temperature 18-28C/64-82F. Does not like sudden significant changes in water parameters.

Discussion

This is probably the easiest aquarium plant to grow, at least when left floating, and because of its rapid growth it quickly assimilates nutrients including ammonia/ammonium and is therefore quite useful in new tanks. It assimilates nutrients primarily through the leaves rather than the roots.

The leaves, or more correctly fronds, since this is a true fern, can be somewhat variable in shape due to light, nutrients and water parameters. This makes identification of this species difficult, and it is often encountered in the literature under the names Ceratopteris pteridioides and C. thalictroides, although both these are now accepted distinct species. C. pteridioides has blunt-lobed fronds (leaves), while C. thalictroides has fronds that are deeply pinate with tips more slender than the subject species. There is some uncertainty over the taxonomy and distribution of Ceratopteris thalictroides and C. cornuta with some botanists considering these as one single species. There are currently (2018) five recognized distinct species in the genus Ceratopteris.

Daughter plants are readily produced from the sporangia on the older and alternate fronds. When left floating, the fronds may extend up to 50 cm (20 inches) across, and will block light from entering the aquarium; this is particularly useful to provide a darker environment such as for spawning fish. In such conditions, suitable substrate plants are any of the Cryptocoryne species, Java Moss, etc. depending upon the amount of light getting through. Otherwise, the daughter plants can be separated and used as individual plants and the parent plant discarded in order to keep the water surface more open.

The dangling roots of floating Ceratopteris provide admirable shelter for fry, and are used by the anabantids that build bubblenests. Many fish including anabantids, characins, etc., will regularly browse the roots for particles of food.

Formerly there were five species recognized [some authorities only recognized four] in the genus Ceratopteris that was placed in the monogeneric family Parkeriaceae, thought to be unique because of its aquatic adaptations. Subsequent genetic analysis has shown the Ceratopteris species to be clearly allied with those in the genus Acrostichum, and Ceratopteridaceae is the family name for the clade that is now known to include these two genera. Some authorities place these two genera within the Pteridaceae family.

At the time of writing (revised, 2018) there are five species recognized as accepted by The Plant List: Ceratopteris cornuta, C. pteridoides, C. richardii, C. succulenta, and C. thalictroides. Six other species names are synonymous with one of these, and there are three unresolved species names.

References:

The Plant List, online at http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=Ceratopteris
 
Currently planning an upcoming 10g betta and ghost shrimp tank. Was wondering whether to get frogbit or water sprite as a floating plant. Frogbit seems more annoying, but maybe more aesthetically pleasing? Does water sprite block less light than frogbit? Does anyone have pics of water sprite used as a floating plant?

If it helps, the other plants I'm considering are dwarf sag, crypt wendtii, hemianthus micranthemiodes, rotala indica(rotundiifolia), maybe some ludwigia repens, and I'll probably throw in a couple juncus repens in the gaps.

Probably medium light, I'm bad at gauging how bright a light is.
Water sprite as got to be up there for the most beneficial plant for freshwater set ups. Supberb for water quality and fish security.
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Can the roots be trimmed, with no detriment to the plant?
 
I just got water sprite and frogbit and by far the water sprite is my favorite. I kind of like how it creates a "jungle" on the waterline of the tank. The fact you can plant it in the substrate as well is a big plus as well.
 
I just got water sprite and frogbit and by far the water sprite is my favorite. I kind of like how it creates a "jungle" on the waterline of the tank. The fact you can plant it in the substrate as well is a big plus as well.
Did you order online, or buy locally?
 
Water sprite it is! Is thalictriodes okay for floating(it's the variety that I've found on the site I want to get my plants from)?
 
Water sprite it is! Is thalictriodes okay for floating(it's the variety that I've found on the site I want to get my plants from)?

According to Kasselmann (a botanist and author of books on Aquarium Plants), "In contrast to C. cornuta, C. thalictroides grows better if it is planted in the substrate. It will take up a lot of space within only a few weeks and will quickly permeate the substrate with its strong roots....Adventitious plants will be more rare than in C. cornuta."
 

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