Angelfish

hello, i was wondering if you could give me any care about angelfish/cichlids? i'm gonna get some soon and put them in a planted aquaium, my one big question is if they could live with common red freshwater lobsters. i have a very tall 48 gallon, how many could i fit? its were meserments, its like a hexigon shape... its my moms old saltwater, curently being used by my sionr syian hamster,wich i will move to a retiremet bin cage soon and i will do a good clean on that (but not with soap, of couse)


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Unicornblast5000 said:

hello, i was wondering if you could give me any care about angelfish/cichlids? i'm gonna get some soon and put them in a planted aquaium, my one big question is if they could live with common red freshwater lobsters. i have a very tall 48 gallon, how many could i fit? its were meserments, its like a hexigon shape... its my moms old saltwater, curently being used by my sionr syian hamster,wich i will move to a retiremet bin cage soon and i will do a good clean on that (but not with soap, of couse)


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unicornblast 5000

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sorry for all the typos lol wen i said were meserments i ment weird meserments, i forgot to say i will try to share pics of the tank

what are "meserments?" like measurements? i think not, the lobsters might harm the angels.

Sgooosh said:

what are "meserments?" like measurements? i think not, the lobsters might harm the angels.

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yep, i have the spelling and grammar as a 7 year old lol

Hi and welcome

Angelfish do benefit from having a tall tank, but the hexagon tanks tend to be not very wide.

You need to have at least 5 or 6 to try lessen the violence they will let loose on each other.

If you can start with 5 or 6 you may ended up with a pair, you will just need to rehome the extras.

Again it depends on the width.

Personally would not trust any lobster/crayfish in with fish, the can opportunist eaters

cdelly said:

Hi and welcome

Angelfish do benefit from having a tall tank, but the hexagon tanks tend to be not very wide.

You need to have at least 5 or 6 to try lessen the violence they will let loose on each other.

If you can start with 5 or 6 you may ended up with a pair, you will just need to rehome the extras.

Again it depends on the width.

Personally would not trust any lobster/crayfish in with fish, the can opportunist eaters

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ok, here, this is not pics but a better discripton of the measurements

Might as well be truthful from the start...fish and crustaceans like lobsters are not compatible.

Second issue is likely the tank size and the behaviours of the angelfish. [I see another member has posted while I've been typing, on similar lines.] Angelfish may seem small fish in store tanks, but they grow larger than many realize, with a body length of 6 inches (15 cm) and a vertical fin span of 8-9 inches (20-22 cm). This requires a spacious tank. It is a shoaling fish, meaning it lives in groups; it is possible to have one or a bonded male/female pair on their own, in a suitable tank, but beyond that no fewer than five or six (preferably more) but that in itself can mean trouble if a pair forms, or a male becomes aggressive. A 4-foot (120 cm) length tank would be minimum, and preferably longer, but if a pair forms or trouble ensues, you need a back-up plan to separate the fish.

I am not in favour of keeping a fish contrary to its expectations, as this can cause serious stress and behavioural problems.

I wouldn't add the lobsters. Angelfish have very long delicate fins that often get torn up by fin nippers (and occasionally each other). I don't like the look of those pincers...

So it's prob equal to about 3x2x2, if I'm reading your sizes right.

You could get away with 6 angels in that but you will still need to rehome any that don't pair up.

Also I would wash it out so much after hamsters have used it.

Having now seen the tank measurements, this tank could hold a bonded pair, but most certainly not a group. A bonded pair means the two fish have encountered one another withn a group and decided to form a pair--something that is not the norm for this species, they can be very fussy when it comes to finding mates. And a "pair" of angelfish that try "marriage" but can't make a go of it usually results in a dead female; in the habitat they cold easily escape one another, but not in an aquarium.

Additionally, I have experience with angels and their attitudes. Your tank is not very wide and, therefore, doesn't have much room for an angelfish to escape from a confrontation. The real function of space and cover when you're dealing with semi aggressive fish is to give them an escape route and break up their line of sight. I would be hesitant. You would have to watch them very carefully.

cdelly said:

So it's prob equal to about 3x2x2, if I'm reading your sizes right.

You could get away with 6 angels in that but you will still need to rehome any that don't pair up.

Also I would wash it out so much after hamsters have used it.

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will do, thanks for the info

dsch132 said:

Additionally, I have experience with angels and their attitudes. Your tank is not very wide and, therefore, doesn't have much room for an angelfish to escape from a confrontation. The real function of space and cover when you're dealing with semi aggressive fish is to give them an escape route and break up their line of sight. I would be hesitant. You would have to watch them very carefully.

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but, like, how do you tell the diffrence between fighting and playing? should i add some hides? how do i tell who started the fight?

ok so, could i get 4 angel fish and two cichlids? angel fish ARE cichlids right?

Unicornblast5000 said:

ok so, could i get 4 angel fish and two cichlids? angel fish ARE cichlids right?

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What kind of cichlids? Cichlids are a large group, so it depends what fish you mean.