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Parasite questions

I'm pretty sure its a general consensus that fenbendazole is the most effective med for internal parasites. You should soak the food, it will be far more effective and cheaper.
I have FLUbendozole not FEN.
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Chain stores are so riddled with disease only the hardiest stock (definitely not livebearers) cope in these situations. If its the only store in your area, your only other choice is through fish clubs etc... which is annoying when you want to get something a little rarer or that isn't commonly bred in the home aquarium.
I've got a couple local stores, though many source from same sources. I do have a reliable online place though at least.

This addresses your concerns

And this is Colin's general approach for de-worming (I copied his text)
"Fish do a stringy white poop for several reasons.
1) Internal Bacterial Infections causes the fish to stop eating, swell up like a balloon, breath heavily at the surface or near a filter outlet, do stringy white poop, and die within 24-48 hours of showing these symptoms. This cannot normally be cured because massive internal organ failure has already occurred.

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2) Internal Protozoan Infections cause the fish to lose weight rapidly (over a week or two), fish continues to eat and swim around but not as much as normal, does stringy white poop. If not treated the fish dies a week or so after these symptoms appear. Metronidazole normally works well for this.

There is a medication (API General Cure) that contains Praziquantel and Metronidazole.

It's interesting that API and the Californian government have listed Metronidazole as a carcinogen. That's a concern considering it was widely used to treat intestinal infections in people.

Anyway, if you use this or any medication, handle with care, don't inhale the medication, and wash hands with soapy water after treating the fish or working in the tank.

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3) Intestinal Worms like tapeworm and threadworms cause the fish to lose weight, continue eating and swimming normally, do a stringy white poop. Fish can do this for months and not be too badly affected. In some cases, fish with bad worm infestation will actually gain weight and get fat and look like a pregnant guppy. This is due to the huge number of worms inside the fish.

You can use Praziquantel to treat tapeworm and gill flukes. And Levamisole to treat thread/ round worms. If you can't find these medications, look for Flubendazole, which treats both lots of worms.

Remove carbon from filters before treatment and increase aeration/ surface turbulence to maximise oxygen levels in the water.

You treat the fish once a week for 4 weeks. The first treatment will kill any worms in the fish. The second, third and forth treatments kill any baby worms that hatch from eggs inside the fish's digestive tract.

Treat every fish tank in the house at the same time to prevent cross contamination.
You do a 75% water change and complete gravel clean 24-48 hours after treatment. Clean the filter 24 hours after treatment too.

Do not use the 2 medications together. If you want to treat both medications in a short space of time, use Praziquantel on day one. Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate on day 2 & 3. Treat the tank with Levamisole on day 4 and do a 75% water change and gravel clean on day 5, 6 & 7 and then start with Praziquantel again on day 8.

The water changes will remove most of the medication so you don't overdose the fish the next time you treat them. The gravel cleaning will suck out any worms and eggs that have been expelled by the fish. Repeating the treatment for 3-4 doses at weekly intervals will kill any worms that hatch from eggs. At the end of the treatment you will have healthier fish. "
You are a Saint, thank you! #3 is definitely my situation. This particular tetra was HUGE before. Deworming has made her deflate big time, but she's definitely not taking it well.
Before:
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Today:
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So there's progress but still :/

Seems it takes more than just 2 treatments like the package says. Thats a relief and what i wanted to know.
 
So some update.

Unfortunately I lost my worst affected tetra, she began to have seizures.

I thought though I was all clear after a 6th dose of flubendozole. I hadn't seen anymore string poops at all, fish have looked good...

Until today I notice porky guppy with a LIVE worm wriggling out of her.
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I'm just getting really frustrated with all this bullpoop happening. My 50g goldie tank having issues, this tank having issues.

Have you ever just wanted to tear everything down because you just can't seem to fix the issues???
 
Okay so health question here.

My 55 has been under deworming medicine, I've done 2 doses at half dose strength due to having cories in the tank.
However, still noticing long white string poops on a couple of my fish, and one of my skirt tetras isn't doing so great, today passed a strange white poop, i collected with a syringe and viewed it under a microscope.
The answer to your problem is right here in your original post, (half dose).

You do not half dose with fish dewormers or any medication unless you absolutely have too. Half dosing simply allows the disease organisms to develop a resistance to the treatment.

Deworming medications are generally very safe compared to other chemicals used to treat parasites and you need to use them at full strength.

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Make sure you remove carbon from filters before treating the fish otherwise it will remove the medication from the water.

Treat all your tanks at the same time to prevent cross contamination from untreated tanks.
 
The answer to your problem is right here in your original post, (half dose).

You do not half dose with fish dewormers or any medication unless you absolutely have too. Half dosing simply allows the disease organisms to develop a resistance to the treatment.

Deworming medications are generally very safe compared to other chemicals used to treat parasites and you need to use them at full strength.

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Make sure you remove carbon from filters before treating the fish otherwise it will remove the medication from the water.

Treat all your tanks at the same time to prevent cross contamination from untreated tanks.
Half dose because I've got cories, hoplos, loaches, and other scaleless fish and shrimp in these tanks that are sensitive to medication. Flubendozole states right on the medication packaging that it is NOT scaleless or shrimp/snail safe. So yes, half dose.

But ive removed the worst affected guppy, placed her in a hospital tank and full dosed her.

The rest are being fed a Flubendozole feed treatment. I went 3/4 dose because again it is not a scaleless fish safe medication but its all i have available to me.
 
NC do you have Seachem Garlic Guard? I think its worthwhile doubling up the attack on the parasites - the allicin within the garlic is proven to kill parasites
 
NC do you have Seachem Garlic Guard? I think its worthwhile doubling up the attack on the parasites - the allicin within the garlic is proven to kill parasites
I'll have to order it
 
Flubendazole is a very good anti-worm medication, better and more effective than Praziquantel.
You can search other forums for treatment with Flubendazole especially for those who keep Discus.

Flubendazole is also safer/milder than Fenbendazole (Fenbendazole will definitely kill shrimps.).
And if I am not wrong, Fenbendazole need to be put in the food to be effective unlike Flubendazole.

But Flubendazole will kill snails and may not be safe for shrimps.(though some shrimps keepers claimed that it's safe for shrimps)
It will also kill Velvet parasites, gill flukes and those pests like Planaria, Hydra, etc. (Hydra and Planaria will kill shrimps and small fish.)
And you will have to treat up to 3-4 weeks to kill all remaining eggs.
According to Colin's notes, you need to treat up to 4 weeks.

Nevertheless, do take note that Internal Protozoa/parasites can also cause white poop.
If the fish don't recover after treatments, you may have to use Metronidazole.

Epsom salt can probably clear the white poop or constipation caused by worms/parasites temporarily but it won't kill the worms or parasites.


 
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Flubendazole is a very good anti-worm medication, better and more effective than Praziquantel.
You can search other forums for treatment with Flubendazole especially for those who keep Discus.

Flubendazole is also safer/milder than Fenbendazole (Fenbendazole will definitely kill shrimps.).
And if I am not wrong, Fenbendazole need to be put in the food to be effective unlike Flubendazole.

But Flubendazole will kill snails and may not be safe for shrimps.(though some shrimps keepers claimed that it's safe for shrimps)
It will also kill Velvet parasites, gill flukes and those pests like Planaria, Hydra, etc. (Hydra and Planaria will kill shrimps and small fish.)
And you will have to treat up to 3-4 weeks to kill all remaining eggs.
According to Colin's notes, you need to treat up to 4 weeks.

Nevertheless, do take note that Internal Protozoa/parasites can also cause white poop.
If the fish don't recover after treatments, you may have to use Metronidazole.

Epsom salt can probably clear the white poop or constipation caused by worms/parasites temporarily but it won't kill the worms or parasites.


Yes thats what I have, the wormer plus.
Ive now done 8 treatments of flubendozole.
Everyone in the house is being treated to be safe. Once able to im gonna buy more again if its still in stock (its hard to find here)
 

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