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Metta

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Hi everyone, new to these forums.

I currently have a 150L Fluval tank setup and cycled with fish in already running an aqua-one external filter. Currently it's on gravel, and some shipwrecks and caves, I am wanting to change it completely.

I am wanting to change the gravel to sand, add some drift wood, slate caves and real plants to go for the most natural look as possible, I am new to all this so wondering whats the pros and cons of the change I'm wanting to do. Best place to get all the stuff from and best way to go about the change. Including the real plant situation I also want to add some moss to the wood.

If anyone has any photos of there natural setups for influence that would be grateful.

- Metta
 
Play sand is cheaper than aquarium sand; Argos play sand is highly recommended - if you can find any. There's been a run on it during lockdown. Sand is a must if you want or have bottom dwelling fish. Plants grow well in sand.
Wood can be bought from most fish shops, or Ebay etc.
Plants again from your local fish shop or on-line. If you ever want shrimps or ornamental snails make sure that the plants say they are shrimp safe, or buy plants grown in vitro. Plants grown outside the EU must be treated with snail killer and some non-EU countries routinely treat plants with insecticide.
Moss can be tied onto wood with thread.
Slate caves - there are sellers on Ebay and probably other places and sellers of loose slate for you to make your own caves.

If you haven't had live plants before I would start with easy plants. There are plants which are rooted in the substrate, plants which are grown attached to decor and floating plants. This website has a list of easy plants to give you some ideas



Once you have all the things you need, wash the sand - it is usually dusty. Siphon some tank water into a bucket or other container then catch the fish and put them in it. Cover it as fish can jump. Removing the gravel will probably make a mess so you'll neeed to throw away the rest of the water. Once the tank is empty, put in the sand and fill with a few inches of water then plant any plants you want rooted in the sand. Some people then drain the tank again and refill. Once you have all the decor in place, just turn the filter & heater back on and put the fish back in the tank. Provided you carry out regular large water changes, the tank water will be almost the same as your tap water so there's no need to reuse the old tank water. I would leave the lights off till the following day to let the fish recover from the stress.
 
Play sand is cheaper than aquarium sand; Argos play sand is highly recommended - if you can find any. There's been a run on it during lockdown. Sand is a must if you want or have bottom dwelling fish. Plants grow well in sand.
Wood can be bought from most fish shops, or Ebay etc.
Plants again from your local fish shop or on-line. If you ever want shrimps or ornamental snails make sure that the plants say they are shrimp safe, or buy plants grown in vitro. Plants grown outside the EU must be treated with snail killer and some non-EU countries routinely treat plants with insecticide.
Moss can be tied onto wood with thread.
Slate caves - there are sellers on Ebay and probably other places and sellers of loose slate for you to make your own caves.

If you haven't had live plants before I would start with easy plants. There are plants which are rooted in the substrate, plants which are grown attached to decor and floating plants. This website has a list of easy plants to give you some ideas



Once you have all the things you need, wash the sand - it is usually dusty. Siphon some tank water into a bucket or other container then catch the fish and put them in it. Cover it as fish can jump. Removing the gravel will probably make a mess so you'll neeed to throw away the rest of the water. Once the tank is empty, put in the sand and fill with a few inches of water then plant any plants you want rooted in the sand. Some people then drain the tank again and refill. Once you have all the decor in place, just turn the filter & heater back on and put the fish back in the tank. Provided you carry out regular large water changes, the tank water will be almost the same as your tap water so there's no need to reuse the old tank water. I would leave the lights off till the following day to let the fish recover from the stress.

Thanks for the reply mate, and the informative reply. One question, regarding removing all the water wont that then mean I need to re cycle my tank?
 
The bacteria we want live tightly bound to surfaces not in the water. You will lose some that were on the gravel and decor that you want to change, but you will still have all the bacteria in your filter. And you intend live plants. Plants use ammonia as fertiliser and they don't turn it into nitrite. With enough live plants, they will take up all the ammonia made by a tank of fish - floating plants are especially good for this.
Whenever doing something major in a tank, from changing things round to adding more fish, it is always sensible to monitor the ammonia and nitrite levels for several days afterwards just in case and if either show up, do a water change.
 
The bacteria we want live tightly bound to surfaces not in the water. You will lose some that were on the gravel and decor that you want to change, but you will still have all the bacteria in your filter. And you intend live plants. Plants use ammonia as fertiliser and they don't turn it into nitrite. With enough live plants, they will take up all the ammonia made by a tank of fish - floating plants are especially good for this.
Whenever doing something major in a tank, from changing things round to adding more fish, it is always sensible to monitor the ammonia and nitrite levels for several days afterwards just in case and if either show up, do a water change.

Thanks again. So would you advice doing the full change all at once? And not cleaning the filter in the dirty water?
I was thinking about doing this change with 50% water still left in the tank? Or would this be a no go?
 
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I changed over from gravel to sand and posted how I did it. Here are a few pictures of my 55 gallon tank. Before and after.
 

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Changed last Saturday to bigger tank and from gravel to sand plus new live plants . Looks far better and fish seem to love it . :)
 

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bb = beneficial bacteria, and he means the shipwreck will have these bacteria on it so if you put it back in for a short while it will help until more bacteria have grown elsewhere in the tank.
 
Thanks again. So would you advice doing the full change all at once? And not cleaning the filter in the dirty water?
I was thinking about doing this change with 50% water still left in the tank? Or would this be a no go?

Hypotheticallys you could leave 50% of the water. But most likely any water left in the tank will get mucked up after you remove all the gravel and add sand. You'll need to remove the fish anyway to do this, so may as well just take all of the water out of the tank.

Your fish will appreciate the 100% water change and as mentioned above, the bacteria that keeps your tank cycled does not live in the water. Between your filter and the live plants, you will be fine. Especially if you add fast growing plants (typically floating plants) which use up ammonia more quickly.
 
Hypotheticallys you could leave 50% of the water. But most likely any water left in the tank will get mucked up after you remove all the gravel and add sand. You'll need to remove the fish anyway to do this, so may as well just take all of the water out of the tank.

Your fish will appreciate the 100% water change and as mentioned above, the bacteria that keeps your tank cycled does not live in the water. Between your filter and the live plants, you will be fine. Especially if you add fast growing plants (typically floating plants) which use up ammonia more quickly.

So, would I benifit from taking 25% water into a few buckets and re using that water and doing a 75% water change leave the fish in another bucket with some of the other water from the tank?

Once the above is done remove the gravel and place down the sand, pour the 25% water I removed back into the tank and then put 75% fresh water using tap safe? But do not clean the filter as of yet. Place the ship back in the tank with the sand and then add plants the week after? How does that sound?

I just do not want to lose any fish if I can help it.
 
I would add the plants at the same time you change to sand. it will save messing round in the tank a second time, and the plants will make up for the bacteria you will lose on the gravel.
 

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