Is this dropsy??
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Is the dark spot on both it’s sides? Or just the one?
What are you exact water parameters? (It’s kind of hard to tell from the picture...)
What are you exact water parameters? (It’s kind of hard to tell from the picture...)
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Just on one and the scales are sticking out. I’ve lost 2 neons in the last week too. 1st looked like popeye, second I debated dropsy.
Nitrate 20
nitrite 0
PH 6.5
KH 0
GH 0
200 litre planted tank
No live food, new plants, new fish in 6 weeks
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Could you provide a clear photo from the top?
Your pH is too low for livebearers as they need a pH of 7.5 and hard water which is afecting your livebearers, but I'm unsure why neons died in soft water..
Your pH is too low for livebearers as they need a pH of 7.5 and hard water which is afecting your livebearers, but I'm unsure why neons died in soft water..
Photos would be helpful
Dropsy is most often caused by poor water quality... what is that tanks size? How often do you do water changes and how much water do you change each time?
Dropsy is most often caused by poor water quality... what is that tanks size? How often do you do water changes and how much water do you change each time?
The orange wagtail platy in the picture has a bacterial infection on its side. This might also be inside the fish.
If you have neon tetras and their eyes are bulging out, they have a bacterial infection too.
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Wipe the inside of the glass down with a clean fish sponge.
Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate. Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it's added to the tank.
Clean the filter if it hasn't been done in the last 2 weeks. Wash filter media/ materials in a bucket of tank water and re-use them. Tip the bucket of dirty water on the garden/ lawn.
Increase aeration/ surface turbulence to maximise oxygen levels.
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Add 2 heaped tablespoons of rock salt, sea salt, or swimming pool salt. Keep the salt in there for 2 weeks.
Add a broad spectrum fish medication that treats bacterial, fungal and protozoan infections.
If you have neon tetras and their eyes are bulging out, they have a bacterial infection too.
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Wipe the inside of the glass down with a clean fish sponge.
Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate. Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it's added to the tank.
Clean the filter if it hasn't been done in the last 2 weeks. Wash filter media/ materials in a bucket of tank water and re-use them. Tip the bucket of dirty water on the garden/ lawn.
Increase aeration/ surface turbulence to maximise oxygen levels.
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Add 2 heaped tablespoons of rock salt, sea salt, or swimming pool salt. Keep the salt in there for 2 weeks.
Add a broad spectrum fish medication that treats bacterial, fungal and protozoan infections.
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Thank you. I will do all that today. Last water change was 50% 1 week ago and 25% a week before that with the filter etc cleaned. I added some melafix today, as I always have that in the cupboard.
it’s a pretty heavily planted tank, with wood and rocks (see profile Pic), should I take the wood and rocks out and clean those?
Should I set up a quarantine tank?
Thank you for your help, I’m so upset
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It’s 200l. Usually 25% one week and 50% the next, with the filter etc being cleaned in the tank water every other time. It has sand substrate, a lot of plants and wood/rocks.
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I’ll try, but he’s pretty fast. He’s one of my oldest fish. Had him 4 years
. I live in a soft water area.
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I have 2 frogs in the tank, I know a lot don’t agree with this. But, my little boy picked them years ago, when we had a little tank and before I knew anything at all . Not that I feel like I know tons now, but more than back then.
One of the frogs has been bloated this last week, is that anything to do with the problem in the other fish?
. Not that I feel like I know tons now, but more than back then. One of the frogs has been bloated this last week, is that anything to do with the problem in the other fish?
You can hose big rocks and wood off if you like.
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If you have a spare tank, you can move the sick fish into it to treat. But monitor the rest of the fish in case they come down with the same problem.
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There isn't much you can do to treat frogs, which is why I recommend keeping them in their own tank. Generally the best you can do for frogs is keep their tank clean and well filtered. If you have a spare tank maybe move them into that with new dechlorinated water and an established biological filter.
You can try Triple Sulpha/ Tri Sulfa for the frogs but I have never used it on amphibions so don't know how they will tolerate it. However, it is considered a safe medication and is/ was regularly used on scaleless fishes because it was safe for them.
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If you have a spare tank, you can move the sick fish into it to treat. But monitor the rest of the fish in case they come down with the same problem.
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There isn't much you can do to treat frogs, which is why I recommend keeping them in their own tank. Generally the best you can do for frogs is keep their tank clean and well filtered. If you have a spare tank maybe move them into that with new dechlorinated water and an established biological filter.
You can try Triple Sulpha/ Tri Sulfa for the frogs but I have never used it on amphibions so don't know how they will tolerate it. However, it is considered a safe medication and is/ was regularly used on scaleless fishes because it was safe for them.
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Thank you. I’m just setting up my old aqua one tank to use. Then this afternoon, I will do a big water change on the main tank and clean the filter.
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Your water is too soft for livebearers. Livebearing fish need pH of 7.0 and up.I’ll try, but he’s pretty fast. He’s one of my oldest fish. Had him 4 years
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