Cleaning sand substrate

julielynn47

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For those of you with sand substrates, how do you keep the sand clean? I try to vac with my python but I suck up more sand than I clean it seems. The gentle wave over the surface just does not seem to work for me. Yet, I see all these pictures with such clean sand.

I have to ask myself, what on earth am I not doing right?
 
Just use a gravel cleaner and kink the hose so it doesn't suck the sand out.
 
Same here really. Just make sure when you are syphoning the debris of the surface of the water, you don’t stick it in the sand, like you would gravel. That would suck up so much sand, and really make your tank look bad. (Believe me, I speak from experience! :D)
 
What I keep hearing here is leave it alone except to clean up the bit of mulm that collects on the surface. Some say stir it just a bit and then to do like Colin says. I'm going to find out as I just set up a new tank with sand in it. My first one ever except for a disastrous failed attempt decades ago. Here's what happened. I got what Seangee called a hydrogen sulfide pocket in the sand. Supposedly this can happen in gravel too. Those pockets can kill fish if released into the water hence the advice to leave the sand alone. I'm going to leave it alone and see what happens. This topic comes up a lot and a lot of good advice is given regarding it. And, those who give the advice swear to their success so I will listen.
 
I tend to leave the substrate alone, but I do have plants. I have play sand in my tanks, except for one with fine gravel to replicate a South Asian stream. The amount of mulm that collects on any substrate obviously depends upon the fish...larger fish produce larger and more waste while smaller fish are minimal. My tanks are all small fish and I never see mulm like I once did with larger fish. The mulm is supposed to work its way down in to the substrate where all sorts of different bacteria deal with it, breaking it down. When one realizes that the substrate is your most important bacteria bed in an aquarium, much more so than the filter which after all is frequently not even necessary except for water current (assuming plants here), it is easy to see why leaving it alone is a good thing generally speaking.

Anaerobic areas are as important as aerobic areas in a healthy substrate. Most substrates are not really deep enough to fully include this, but areas under rocks and wood can help and should be left alone. I think the longest I have ever had the same substrate from set-up was four or five years, and when I did tear the tank down to move there were certainly some very black areas under rock and wood that never seemed to cause issues during the tank's life.

When I do feel the need to clean the sand, I use the Python connected to the tap and the draw on this is not sufficient to pick up sand unless I really push it down to the tank floor. Running over the surface stirs the sand and mulm up, and the sand rises a few inches in the tube and then slowly falls back down.
 
I would love to see a picture of that one! ;)

The 33g riverscape is not an authentic biotope, but it has the components to replicate the area streams. It is the first photo below. The second is this same tank a couple years back when it was quite an authentic Sri Lankan stream which is the home of the Black Ruby Barbs that lived in this tank (no other fish); this tank had sand substrate with leaf litter, wood and geographical-correct plants.
 

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That is amazing!! :drool:

I love biotopes, they are so realistic. And I love the leaf litter, you don’t see that much in tanks. ;)
 
Awesome pictures Byron. And yes the leaf litter is very cool. Never seen that before.

Thank you both for the nice words. The leaf litter didn't last too long in that tank, as the barbs ate the leaves in no time. I replaced them every week, but they'd be all but gone by the following week. Those are the only fish I've had that did this.

I also keep leaves in my 29g Amazonian blackwater tank. This is a photo from June just after I'd moved and set it up, and there are more leaves now as I have added a few each week. Eventually they decompose. The water is not stained dark, but in all other aspects this is a blackwater aquascape.
 

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You should have entered the TOTM contest, you would have rocked everyone outta the water! :)
 
I do not have the "touch" to create a tank that looks like yours Byron. They are gorgeous. It is kind of like interior decorating...I am not good at that either. lol
 
I do not have the "touch" to create a tank that looks like yours Byron. They are gorgeous. It is kind of like interior decorating...I am not good at that either. lol
Do what I do. Copy someone else a few times. Doing things cultivates proficiency. After you copy something a few times you'll develop your own skills. Ask any carpenter.
 
And experiment till u find plants that will grow with your lighting and water. Add a small amount of ferts to see if that helps.
 

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