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I bought four Blue Rams last weekend. One female (the largest of the four) has developed 3 small white spots on its tail, which I first saw about three days ago. It is feeding well and not scratching on rocks or anything. There are no signs of spots on any of the other fish in the aquarium. Is it Ick or something else?
 
The picture is a bit out of focus (the thing wouldn't stay still long enough), but I think the spots are clear enough; all are close to the rear edge of the tail, two close together in the centre and one near the top .
 

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if they are not flashing or showing any other signs of irritation it's not likely to be white spot. My male angel has similar marks on his fins and it's where the female has been harrassing him and has damaged his fins.
 
My advice would be to keep the water clean and monitor for now. If you see her start to flash and develop more spots then get a treatment for Whitespot. Waterlife's Whitespot treatment is the best one I've come across
 
Thanks for the fast response; the females do chase each other around so that's quite possible.
 
I'll do a water test now and keep and eye on it. If it is Ick I'd expect multiple fish to be covered in spots within the next few days (I believe it's a four-day cycle), but if no more spots appear in the next few days I think it's probably OK.
 
If it is I would bump the water temp to 30 or 31 deg c. This speeds up the ICH life cycle and should kill the ICH in most cases,
 
I had ICH in a 6 foot tank with Tetras Rasboras BN plecos and Clown loaches, I upped the temp of the water to 31 deg C for ten days and the ICH disappeared no chemicals or salt needed.
 
yes, you could turn up the heat a little and see if that moves things along. If nothing happens then accept it's marks from chasing and biting. Whitespot is highly contagious and I'd expect to see more than one fish affected if it were whitspot
 
Akasha72 said:
Whitespot is highly contagious and I'd expect to see more than one fish affected if it were whitspot
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I suppose that only one fish may be infected at the start of an outbreak though, especially if it was a newly introduced and possibly stressed fish. In that case are a few spots possible, or would you expect that fish to be covered in spots immediately?
 
My Bolivian has spots similar.close up there is a more blueish to tinge to them than white.
 
Coys55 said:
 
Whitespot is highly contagious and I'd expect to see more than one fish affected if it were whitspot
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I suppose that only one fish may be infected at the start of an outbreak though, especially if it was a newly introduced and possibly stressed fish. In that case are a few spots possible, or would you expect that fish to be covered in spots immediately?
 
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I'm going by your original post in that you first saw the 'spots' 3 days ago. In that time I would have expected to see more than one fish affected and that this fish would have developed more spots in that time.
 
All this information taken into account I do not think that this is whitespot but I could be wrong and this is why I'm suggesting clean water and monitor with the possibility of turning up the heat a little if you have species of fish that can cope with higher temps. 
 
Akasha72 said:
 
 


Whitespot is highly contagious and I'd expect to see more than one fish affected if it were whitspot
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I suppose that only one fish may be infected at the start of an outbreak though, especially if it was a newly introduced and possibly stressed fish. In that case are a few spots possible, or would you expect that fish to be covered in spots immediately?
 
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I'm going by your original post in that you first saw the 'spots' 3 days ago. In that time I would have expected to see more than one fish affected and that this fish would have developed more spots in that time.
 
All this information taken into account I do not think that this is whitespot but I could be wrong and this is why I'm suggesting clean water and monitor with the possibility of turning up the heat a little if you have species of fish that can cope with higher temps. 
 


OK. I'll test the water today, but I don't expect any issues, and do my regular 25% weekly change tomorrow.
 
what I was meaning by clean water was to up the water changes (sorry, I should have been more clear, my fault) Never underestimate how much good can come from a water change and always use them to your advantage if you suspect something is wrong. 
 
Akasha72 said:
what I was meaning by clean water was to up the water changes (sorry, I should have been more clear, my fault) Never underestimate how much good can come from a water change and always use them to your advantage if you suspect something is wrong. 
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No more spots overnight; same three still there. Usual 25% RO water change this morning
 
I'm now 100% certain this isn't whitespot. I'm certain this is marks caused by damage - whether that has been through netting or through bickering I can not say but if it puts your mind a rest I'll see if my angels will permit a photo later of the marks on their fins
 
Akasha72 said:
I'm now 100% certain this isn't whitespot. I'm certain this is marks caused by damage - whether that has been through netting or through bickering I can not say but if it puts your mind a rest I'll see if my angels will permit a photo later of the marks on their fins
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I agree with your diagnosis; still no more sports on her or any other fish.
 
She's feeding well on frozen cyclops, blood worm and brine shrimp plus some flake, although she seems to spit that out most of the time for some reason. The other three smaller Rams are also doing well.
 
Only one spot left now; the other two have disappeared, so whatever it was it was nothing permanent.
 
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