Species/illnesses?

Hi, I would really appreciate help on this, sorry if I sound rude. The blue fish appears to be ill, as it's spine is lower in the back... And sorry for the low quality photos. These are tetras, but I'm not sure of what kind.

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3 fish, however yellow-green fish refuses to eat and hides frequently. (It is new along with orange; yellow-green is young(?) female, orange is young male)

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Blue fish at bottom left, poor quality disables view of what seems to be bent spine (Red is the most healthy, is adult male)

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Green orange and red


Poor quality picture of Red (and green facing toward camera)

Sorry, I took pictures of them but the only small enough one was the poor quality picture. The blue adult male's caudal (tail) fin tends to bend, almost looking like its sinking, downward whenever he stops in the water. This fish also tends to lie on the ground occasionally, hiding from others.

The green female also seems to have the conditions as the blue male, although the blue male is an adult and the female is younger. The green female doesn't lag it's caudal fin as frequently as the others.

Once again, I apologize for the quality of the pictures.

I attempted to mate the species, but quickly realized that my (soon to be deceased) adult blue female wasn't ready to mate, but rather had what I believe was the neon tetra disease.

I would like to breed these fish, but I think that I was incorrect in guessing they were neon tetras, simply because they are opaque... They do, however, glow in an ultraviolet light, (I have only used it twice purely because of cancer possibilities with said light), which leads me to believe they are neon tetras...

Other information about the tank:
-New
-Has Stress Coat+
-Has Aquarium Salt
-Has Easy Balance to maintain water chemistry and pH
-Has Quick Start
-Has Tap water conditioner
-Has new filter properly set up filter
-has air pump
-Red adult male and blue adult male are both transferred from an untidy tank (they survived in there, however I recently discovered a bunch of "crud" that has been growing larger over the past year which is why I transferred them)
-Has bits of brine shrimp floating around (read online that breeding neon tetras involves live meat, however they do not seem to be going after it)
-Water temp is 74F to 76F
-Old tank temp is 67F to 69F
-Miniature mammoth skull with yarn inside (intended for eggs)
-Corner contains 2 java ferns, 1 from old tank and 1 newly bought
-contains heating pad which currently seems to be doing nothing.

TL;DR
What specific species?
Do any of the descriptions for the blue and green resemble signs of diseased fish?

Thank you in advanced Sorry for such a long post!

pmilkosky said:

Other information about the tank:
-New
-Has Stress Coat+
-Has Aquarium Salt
-Has Easy Balance to maintain water chemistry and pH
-Has Quick Start
-Has Tap water conditioner
-Has new filter properly set up filter
-has air pump
-Red adult male and blue adult male are both transferred from an untidy tank (they survived in there, however I recently discovered a bunch of "crud" that has been growing larger over the past year which is why I transferred them)
-Has bits of brine shrimp floating around (read online that breeding neon tetras involves live meat, however they do not seem to be going after it)
-Water temp is 74F to 76F
-Old tank temp is 67F to 69F
-Miniature mammoth skull with yarn inside (intended for eggs)
-Corner contains 2 java ferns, 1 from old tank and 1 newly bought
-contains heating pad which currently seems to be doing nothing.

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sorry i cant see from the pictures what type of fish you have but i would hazzard a guess its not neon tetra, however your problems are probably caused by the fact you say your tank is new, and not cycled, please read the link in my signature on cycling, can you tell us what your water stats are please? but as a immediate action i suggest you do a water change now with dechlorinator and temperature matched water,

heatpad??and i have to ask why have you added alot of unecessary chemicals to the water, you only need a dechlorinator, also not all fish tolorate salt, you need to post better pictures so we can see what type of fish you have

Are they glofish, in other words genetically modified zebra danios? Have a Google and come back to us.

phoenixgsd said:

sorry i cant see from the pictures what type of fish you have but i would hazzard a guess its not neon tetra, however your problems are probably caused by the fact you say your tank is new, and not cycled, please read the link in my signature on cycling, can you tell us what your water stats are please? but as a immediate action i suggest you do a water change now with dechlorinator and temperature matched water,

heatpad?

?and i have to ask why have you added alot of unecessary chemicals to the water, you only need a dechlorinator, also not all fish tolorate salt, you need to post better pictures so we can see what type of fish you have

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It will not allow me to post any better pictures, sadly. The type of fish is Glofish as mentioned below, I went back to the store I bought them at today and they were glofish. The fish seem to be doing OK currently, they seem to be schooling and happy. Thank you for the Aquarium salt tip, and I will definitely cycle it and read up on the cycling. Thank you for the help

sadguppy said:

Are they glofish, in other words genetically modified zebra danios? Have a Google and come back to us.

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They are, I confirmed at my pet store. They are from the only black-light lit fishtank in the store. Thank you though

Well then your intentions on breeding may not go far. It is actually illegal as there is a patent on these fish, and reports from those that have tried have said that most are sterile. However, if you want to give it a go, read up on spawning zebra danios.

Personally I think they're hideous and don't know why you would want to have genetically modified fish as there are so many beautiful ones in nature, but it is one of those debates I find it is best not to get into!

sadguppy said:

Well then your intentions on breeding may not go far. It is actually illegal as there is a patent on these fish, and reports from those that have tried have said that most are sterile. However, if you want to give it a go, read up on spawning zebra danios.

Personally I think they're hideous and don't know why you would want to have genetically modified fish as there are so many beautiful ones in nature, but it is one of those debates I find it is best not to get into!

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I saw zebra danios in the store the other day and indeed they are ugly. I may attempt to breed sucker fish, they are definitely high pricing fish.

pmilkosky said:

sadguppy said:

Well then your intentions on breeding may not go far. It is actually illegal as there is a patent on these fish, and reports from those that have tried have said that most are sterile. However, if you want to give it a go, read up on spawning zebra danios.

Personally I think they're hideous and don't know why you would want to have genetically modified fish as there are so many beautiful ones in nature, but it is one of those debates I find it is best not to get into!

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I saw zebra danios in the store the other day and indeed they are ugly. I may attempt to breed sucker fish, they are definitely high pricing fish.

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Not danios, they are lovely fish, but these modified coloured varieties. They aren't legal to buy in the UK however.

You may want to look into exactly which 'sucker fish' you intend to breed. You are right in thinking that some are high priced, others are not at all. However one thing I can certainly assure you is that there is little profit to be made from breeding any fish, particularly as a newbie. The ones that command a high price, for example zebra plecs, would require significant set up fees (at least three adults @ £150 each, spawning caves etc) and extremely precise conditions in terms of water stats, flow rate etc, and on the other hand you will see people trading young Bristlenoses for around 50p each - far less than they would have cost to raise.

Whatever you decide to try and breed, you would need several tanks and all need to be cycled correctly (see advice above or in the sticky in the newbie form). You cannot keep most fry with the parents as they will eat them, but some e.g. discus and some mouthbrooding cichlids need to be raised by them.