Sick L200 - Green Phantom Plec

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Tank size: 330 litres
pH: 7.8
ammonia: 0
nitrite: 0
nitrate: 20
kH: no current readings but tap water is fairly hard with a good buffering capacity
gH: 16 dH
tank temp: 78 oF (26 oC)

Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior):

Came home late tonight to find one of my L200’s (Green Phantom Plec) on its’ back/side. Its’ breathing appeared to be a bit more rapid than normal (about 50% faster). From level with the dorsal fin down to the caudal peduncle its’ colour appeared to be faded (not completely but enough for me to notice). After a few minutes it righted itself and I noticed a mark/patch on its head. I have included a picture of this below. The patch itself is slightly raised and indented in the middle.
See recent additions for history of the tank.

One of the other L200's also appear to be slightly faded across the same area.

The other tank inhabitants appear to be exhibiting no illness or symptoms at this time.

What I have done so far:
50% water change.

What I am planning on doing tomorrow unless advised differently:
Lower heater setting (aiming for a temperature of 73oF – in case this is bacterial)
Perform another 50% water change.
Remove the carbon from the filter.
Treat with Myxazin (need to buy some when the shops open)

Volume and Frequency of water changes:
Will be between 25% to 50% a week (treated with safe guard)

Chemical Additives or Media in your tank:
Currently running a trickle filter (about 6 times tank volume per hour). Mixture of ceramic media, bioballs and carbon with foam pad pre-filter.

Tank inhabitants:
4 L200 (Green Phantom Plec’s) about 4 inches total length (wild caught and have been in the shop for about 2 weeks).
Pair of Pelvicachromis taeniatus (Niger Red Kribs)

Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration):
The tank is newly set-up (22/12/2012) and was new at purchase. Substrate is aquarium safe dark grey sand (new and rinsed before use) on top of egg crate. Rocks are aquarium safe green slate (new and scrubbed before placing in the tank). One large piece of bog root (new, soaked and scrubbed before placing the tank). Java moss (new and tied to the bog root). 6 pieces of vallis from my other corner tank (no health issues with that tank).
The tank was set up on the 22/12/2012 with the filter running and the temperature allowed to stabilise (Safe Guard used).
On the 24/12/2012 mature ceramic filter media was taken from my second external that was running on my 350 litre corner tank and added to the compartments of the trickle filter.
The inhabitants of this tank were then bought later that day.

Exposure to chemicals:

So far only Safe Guard.

Digital photo (include if possible):
Whole view of sick L200
DSC_0128.JPG

L200 on its' side

Ill Plec 1.JPG

Close up of patch on L200's head

Plec closeup.jpg

Comparison with another L200 in same tank (this individual currently seems okay)

L200.jpg
 
Could be a bacteria infection. Your water stats are fine, if your going to treat I'd increase your temp as lowering it will make your meds act at a slower rate. High heat when treating, make sure theres no carbon. The patches look white/fluffy?
 
Fighting issue maybe?, plecs during a territorial battle can be very brutal and often leads to serious injury or death.

Any exposed heaters he could have burnt himself on?
 
Thanks for replying guys. Unfortunately the sick L200 did not make it. One of the others still looks faded across the back end of its body and the other two look okay.

I can't rule out that the mark/patch was a heater burn, though it would have been very difficult for the fish to have wedged itself under the heater. Either way I have now put a heater guard on the heater. If it was a heater burn the size of the mark was quite small (relative to the size of the fish), so I don't think it was the cause of death but it could have contributed.

I also cannot rule out a territorial dispute (i have seen some nasty plec induced wounds in the past due to this). However, in this case I think it is less likely as there were no other marks on the fish and no exposed flesh (red wounds visible)

I am still favouring a bacterial issue (as the fish were wild caught and have recently been through several moves), possibly brought on by stress.

The patch/mark did not look white or fluffy, if anything a mixture between rusty brown to a translucent milky colour.

The reason I was going to lower the water temperature was that the rate at which bacteria multiply increases as temperature rises (within the tolerances for that strain of bacteria). For things like whitespot I agree with you, raising the temperature there works as it shortens the life cycle of the parasite, thereby shortening the gap between the vulnerable free swimming stages of the parasite to the medication.

Edited to say that I have also performed another 50% water change.

I have removed the carbon from the filter and we are on Day 1 of Myxazin treatment.
 

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