I have a 66L (2ft) Aqua One Tank, with Gravel a shipwreck,croc skull and a treasure chest. 2x plastic plants and 1 silk plant. I have a fluval u2 internal filter and an Interpet delta therm 100W heater. topped off with a 24W white/blue light over a condensation trap (no lid as yet)
Two weeks ago i filled tank with De-chlorinated water waited 5 days, took water sample to Pets At Home. They said fine to keep fish. Bought 3x Mollies added them as instructed. 2 days later all 3 fish were dead
Ammonia had risen to 0.50ppm 0 Nitrites and 0 Nitrates
told to do a 60% water change. recheck water. Amm 0.25 Ni 0 Na 0.
told to do a 10% water change to get Amm down. (thought it should be going up?)
Joined this wonderful site to get proper advice.
Advised to do "fishless" Cycle. Ordered Ammonia (9.5%) from internet.
due to BHoliday. Amm won't be here till tomorrow.
Todays reading Day 1: Amm = 0.50 Ni = 0 Na = 0 Temp = 28 C
Day 2: am reading, Amm = 0.50 Ni = 0 Na = 0 Temp = 29 C
Delivery of Ammonia turns up ...eventually
afternoon reading: Added 4ml Amm = 6ppm
advised to do a small 10% water change to lower it down a bit.
pm reading after 20% w.change (due to 10% not changing it at all) Amm = 4ppm Temp 30 C PH = 8.3
Day 3: Pm reading (in good light) Amm = 4ppm (def) Temp = 30C PH = 8.0
Day 4: am reading Amm = 4ppm Temp = 30 C
also did some curious tests on tap water... Amm = 0 PH = 7.5 Ni = 0 Na = 0 as i've heard some have Nitirites in their tap water. So at least i know there is none in mine before i add to the tank.
Ho hum... *musical interlude*
Day 5: Am reading Amm = 4ppm Temp = 30C PH = 8.0
Day 6: Am reading Amm = 4ppm Temp = 30C PH = 8.0
:tumbleweed: and another
OK ... i have now started another tank (70L Super fish) i bought it as a job lot, with sand substrate and a Sunkun ornament Bell, mature media also, well it has gunk on it??!!
As advised i cut the sponge in half and added it to my first tank with a swop of one of the sponges from that tank.
Filled (also added 5L of water from Tank 1 to Tank 2)...dechlorinated and bumped up to 4ppm. now we wait again!
Tank 1 : as day 6 results above plus Ni = 0 Na = 0 when read pm after small change to replace water that went to Tank 2.
Day 7: Amm = 4ppm Temp = 30C Ni = 0 Na = 0. Bit upset the media made no change
Day 8: Amm = 4ppm Temp = 30C Ni = 0
Day 9: Amm = 4ppm Temp = 28C *sigh* PH seems to have dropped again...to 7.5 ..is this normal during a cycle?
Day 10: Amm = 4ppm Temp = 28C Ni = BIG FAT 0. Disappointed in you tank 1!!
Day 11: Amm = 4ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 0.
Day 12:!!!! Amm = 3ppm Temp = 30C Ni = 0 Na = 0.25 ? is this possible?
I am starting to lose paitence with Tank 1...but the drop in Amm was how tank 2 started so..pleassssse let this be it!!! I WANT FISHIES!
Day 13: Amm = 3ppm Temp 30C Ni = 0 Na = 0.25ppm (its a very dark yellow, darker than the test card for 0...but not Orange like 0.50)
pm..reading Amm = 3-4ppm *sigh*
Day 14: Amm = 3ppm Ni = 0ppm Na = 0.25ppm (as yesterday)
No change again.
played about with tests and did a pm reading...PH = 8.0 (i think ... not clear) Amm = 4ppm Ni = 0ppm Na = 0-0.25ppm (again dark yellow)
*Day 15*: Amm = 4ppm Ni = 0.25ppm!!!(we have Nitrite! ) Na = 0.25ppm
pm test showed Nitrites increased to 0.50ppm and Nitrates to 5.0ppm....BUT Amm still at 4ppm ???
Day 16: Amm = 3ppm (def looks a lighter shade of green) Ni = 2.0ppm hyper Na = 5.0ppm about bloody time Tank 1!!
pm test showed Amm = 3ppm Ni = 2-5ppm (rising) Na = 20ppm (risen since this morning)
PH 7.4
Day 17: Amm = 2ppm (dropped again) Ni = 5ppm (risen) Na = 20ppm (settled) PH 8.0 (back to what it was in the beginning)
pm test showed Amm = 1ppm (fallen from this morning) Ni = 5+ppm (SPIKE) Na = 30ppm PH = 7.4
Day18: Amm = 0.25(nearly there...) Ni = 5+ppm (spike) Ni = 40ppm (increased) PH = 7.4
pm tests showed Amm = 0-0.25ppm (couldnt decide) Ni = 5+ppm Na = 40ppm
First dose of 1ml of ammonia taking it to...3ppm
Day 19: Amm = 0 Ni = 5+ppm Na = 40ppm PH = 7.4 (so cleared Ammonia in 12hrs)
pm test not done as out but did dose up to 4ppm again with Ammonia.
**Day 20**: Amm: = 0.25ppm Ni = 0.25ppm Na = 30ppm (best reading yet Tank 1)
pm tests not done..but in light to this mornings reading added 1ml Ammonia.
**Day 21**: (12hrs post dose) Amm = 0.25ppm Ni = 0.25ppm Na = 20
pm test showed (24rs post dose) Amm = 0ppm Ni = 0ppm Na = 10
dosed with 2ml of Ammonia....4ppm
Day 22: (12hrs post dose) Amm = 0 (so it does clear 4ppm in 12hrs) Ni = 5+ppm (but not Nitrite) Na = 80-160ppm
pm tests show(24hrs)Amm = 0 Ni = 0.10ppm(darker than 0..but not lilac) Na = 30ppm
Dosed with 2ml of ammonia.
Did some mid-cycle tests on my tap water:
Tap water: PH = 7.6 Amm = 0 Ni = 0 Na = 0
D/Chlorinated Tap water : PH = 7.2 Amm = 0 Ni = 0 Na = 0
def NO NitRates present.
Tank 2 : 70L Superfish with Aqua Flow 200 internal filter + heater, sand substrate and an ornament bell.
Day 1 : Amm = 4ppm Temp = 20C(set the heater to 30C, but may take time to reach temp)
Ni = 0 Na = 0.
Day 2 Amm = 2ppm Temp 29C Ni = 0 Na = 0. Pleased Amm dropped overnight, but thought i may see some Nitrites by now
Day 3: Amm = 2ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 0
Day 4: Amm = 3ppm ( again is it normal for the Amm to rise again? )Temp = 29C PH = again 7.5???
Day 5: Amm = 2ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 0.50ppm Na = 5.0ppm Well done tank 2!
Day 6: Amm = 2ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 5.0 Na = 20ppm
Day 7: OK...one week in and results are GREAT!
Amm = 0.25ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 5.0ppm Na = 20.0ppm
indeed we have a spike!!
**Day 8**: Amm = 0ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 0ppm Na = 10ppm
Indeed the double zero's.....yayyyyyyyyy
Now added 2ml of Ammonia...went to 3ppm..added another 0.2ml..up to 4ppm...
now we wait......
pm test (12 hrs later) Amm = 2ppm Ni = 2.0ppm Na = 30ppm
Day 9: Amm = 1.0ppm Ni = between 2-5ppm Na = 80ppm ()
pm test PH = 7.6 Amm = 0.25ppm Ni = 5.0ppm Na = 40-80ppm ()
**Day 10**!!!: More double 0's... Amm = 0 Ni = 0 Na = 20ppm
added 1.4ml of Ammonia = 3ppm...roll on 12 hrs!!
PM test : Amm = 0.25 Ni = 2-5ppm Na = 40ppm Looking good!!
bumped Amm back up to 2ppm (added 1ml ammonia)....roll on morning!!
Day 11: Amm = 0.25ppm Ni = 2-5ppm Na = 40ppm
bumped back up to 3ppm with 1.4ml of Ammonia.
PM test (12H): Amm = 0 Ni = 2.0ppm Na = 40-80ppm ..... BUT......PH has dropped to 6.4
Added 1tsp of Bicarb to up PH and 2ml of Ammonia to take it up to 3ppm.
Day 12: Amm = 0.25 Ni = 5ppm (SPIKE) Na = 80-160ppm (spike) PH = 7.3 (after bumping with the Bi-carb)
added 2ml Ammonia -> took it to 2ppm.
QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS....know now to only add ammonia every 24hrs NOT 12hrs!!
pm tests showed PH = Buffered to 8.0 with Bicarb Amm = 0ppm Ni = 2-5ppm Na = 80ppm
added 2ml of Ammonia bumped up to 2-3ppm (want to do ammonia bumps in the eve as i have more time then)
Day 13: Amm = 0.25ppm Ni = N/T (as off the scale) Na = 80ppm PH = 7.4 (fallen since last night)
**pm tests** (24hrs since dose) show Amm = 0 Ni = 0 Na = 80ppm PH 8.0 (DOUBLE 0'S again)
so its clearing 3ppm in 24hrs.
dosed with 1.2ml of Ammonia to take it up to.....3ppm
**Day 14**: Amm = 0ppm Ni = 0.25ppm (oooh nearly) Na = 80ppm PH = 7.4
pm tests not done as i was out..not dosed.
**Day 15**: Amm = 0ppm Ni = 0ppm Na = 80ppm PH = 8.0
pm..no readings taken...but added 1.2ml Ammonia
Day 16: (12hrs post dose) Amm = 0 Ni = 2ppm Na = 80-160ppm
**pm tests** show(24hrs post dose) Amm = 0 Ni = 0ppm Na = 80-160ppm PH = 8.0 (stabilized) dosed with 2.7ml of Ammonia....4ppm
Day 17: (12hrs) Amm = 1ppm Ni = 5+ppm Na = 80-160ppm (groan)
pm tests(24hrs) Amm = 0 Ni = 5+ppm Na = 80-160ppm (nitrite still spiking)
Dosed with 2.5ml of Ammonia
OOOppppps i bought another tank.......60L, gravel substrate with used media in a fluval 2+ filter. 100w heater and a shark air stone, fake plant and a pirate sword.
Tank 3: initial readings after dechlorination... Amm = 0 Ni = 0 Na = 0 (as expected)
dosed with 2ml of ammonia to take it to 4ppm...24 hr tests begin.
NB: tank has no heater yet..but filled with warm water .. will get heater asap.
NNB: tank came with snails!!! ugh!
Day 2: Amm = 3ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0 ( dont think this filter was cycled..or they cleaned it VERY WELL )
pm tests not done as i was out...not dosed
Day 3: Amm = 3-4ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0.25 (again dark yellow, but not orange)
pm...no readings done as probably little change. NOT DOSED
Day 4: Amm = 3-4ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0.25ppm PH = 7.4 ( still need the Amm to drop)
pm.... Amm = 3-4ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0.25ppm PH = 7.4 (no change) NOT DOSED
Day 5: Amm = 3-4ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0.25ppm PH = 7.4 (no change)
pm.... Amm = 3-4ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0.25ppm PH = 8.0 (no change apart from PH) NOT DOSED
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Two weeks ago i filled tank with De-chlorinated water waited 5 days, took water sample to Pets At Home. They said fine to keep fish. Bought 3x Mollies added them as instructed. 2 days later all 3 fish were dead
Ammonia had risen to 0.50ppm 0 Nitrites and 0 Nitrates
told to do a 60% water change. recheck water. Amm 0.25 Ni 0 Na 0.
told to do a 10% water change to get Amm down. (thought it should be going up?)
Joined this wonderful site to get proper advice.
Advised to do "fishless" Cycle. Ordered Ammonia (9.5%) from internet.
due to BHoliday. Amm won't be here till tomorrow.
Todays reading Day 1: Amm = 0.50 Ni = 0 Na = 0 Temp = 28 C
Day 2: am reading, Amm = 0.50 Ni = 0 Na = 0 Temp = 29 C
Delivery of Ammonia turns up ...eventually
afternoon reading: Added 4ml Amm = 6ppm
advised to do a small 10% water change to lower it down a bit.
pm reading after 20% w.change (due to 10% not changing it at all) Amm = 4ppm Temp 30 C PH = 8.3
Day 3: Pm reading (in good light) Amm = 4ppm (def) Temp = 30C PH = 8.0
Day 4: am reading Amm = 4ppm Temp = 30 C
also did some curious tests on tap water... Amm = 0 PH = 7.5 Ni = 0 Na = 0 as i've heard some have Nitirites in their tap water. So at least i know there is none in mine before i add to the tank.
Ho hum... *musical interlude*
Day 5: Am reading Amm = 4ppm Temp = 30C PH = 8.0
Day 6: Am reading Amm = 4ppm Temp = 30C PH = 8.0
:tumbleweed: and another
OK ... i have now started another tank (70L Super fish) i bought it as a job lot, with sand substrate and a Sunkun ornament Bell, mature media also, well it has gunk on it??!!
As advised i cut the sponge in half and added it to my first tank with a swop of one of the sponges from that tank.
Filled (also added 5L of water from Tank 1 to Tank 2)...dechlorinated and bumped up to 4ppm. now we wait again!
Tank 1 : as day 6 results above plus Ni = 0 Na = 0 when read pm after small change to replace water that went to Tank 2.
Day 7: Amm = 4ppm Temp = 30C Ni = 0 Na = 0. Bit upset the media made no change
Day 8: Amm = 4ppm Temp = 30C Ni = 0
Day 9: Amm = 4ppm Temp = 28C *sigh* PH seems to have dropped again...to 7.5 ..is this normal during a cycle?
Day 10: Amm = 4ppm Temp = 28C Ni = BIG FAT 0. Disappointed in you tank 1!!
Day 11: Amm = 4ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 0.
Day 12:!!!! Amm = 3ppm Temp = 30C Ni = 0 Na = 0.25 ? is this possible?
I am starting to lose paitence with Tank 1...but the drop in Amm was how tank 2 started so..pleassssse let this be it!!! I WANT FISHIES!
Day 13: Amm = 3ppm Temp 30C Ni = 0 Na = 0.25ppm (its a very dark yellow, darker than the test card for 0...but not Orange like 0.50)
pm..reading Amm = 3-4ppm *sigh*
Day 14: Amm = 3ppm Ni = 0ppm Na = 0.25ppm (as yesterday)
No change again.
played about with tests and did a pm reading...PH = 8.0 (i think ... not clear) Amm = 4ppm Ni = 0ppm Na = 0-0.25ppm (again dark yellow)
*Day 15*: Amm = 4ppm Ni = 0.25ppm!!!(we have Nitrite! ) Na = 0.25ppm
pm test showed Nitrites increased to 0.50ppm and Nitrates to 5.0ppm....BUT Amm still at 4ppm ???
Day 16: Amm = 3ppm (def looks a lighter shade of green) Ni = 2.0ppm hyper Na = 5.0ppm about bloody time Tank 1!!
pm test showed Amm = 3ppm Ni = 2-5ppm (rising) Na = 20ppm (risen since this morning)
PH 7.4
Day 17: Amm = 2ppm (dropped again) Ni = 5ppm (risen) Na = 20ppm (settled) PH 8.0 (back to what it was in the beginning)
pm test showed Amm = 1ppm (fallen from this morning) Ni = 5+ppm (SPIKE) Na = 30ppm PH = 7.4
Day18: Amm = 0.25(nearly there...) Ni = 5+ppm (spike) Ni = 40ppm (increased) PH = 7.4
pm tests showed Amm = 0-0.25ppm (couldnt decide) Ni = 5+ppm Na = 40ppm
First dose of 1ml of ammonia taking it to...3ppm
Day 19: Amm = 0 Ni = 5+ppm Na = 40ppm PH = 7.4 (so cleared Ammonia in 12hrs)
pm test not done as out but did dose up to 4ppm again with Ammonia.
**Day 20**: Amm: = 0.25ppm Ni = 0.25ppm Na = 30ppm (best reading yet Tank 1)
pm tests not done..but in light to this mornings reading added 1ml Ammonia.
**Day 21**: (12hrs post dose) Amm = 0.25ppm Ni = 0.25ppm Na = 20
pm test showed (24rs post dose) Amm = 0ppm Ni = 0ppm Na = 10
dosed with 2ml of Ammonia....4ppm
Day 22: (12hrs post dose) Amm = 0 (so it does clear 4ppm in 12hrs) Ni = 5+ppm (but not Nitrite) Na = 80-160ppm
pm tests show(24hrs)Amm = 0 Ni = 0.10ppm(darker than 0..but not lilac) Na = 30ppm
Dosed with 2ml of ammonia.
Did some mid-cycle tests on my tap water:
Tap water: PH = 7.6 Amm = 0 Ni = 0 Na = 0
D/Chlorinated Tap water : PH = 7.2 Amm = 0 Ni = 0 Na = 0
def NO NitRates present.
Tank 2 : 70L Superfish with Aqua Flow 200 internal filter + heater, sand substrate and an ornament bell.
Day 1 : Amm = 4ppm Temp = 20C(set the heater to 30C, but may take time to reach temp)
Ni = 0 Na = 0.
Day 2 Amm = 2ppm Temp 29C Ni = 0 Na = 0. Pleased Amm dropped overnight, but thought i may see some Nitrites by now
Day 3: Amm = 2ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 0
Day 4: Amm = 3ppm ( again is it normal for the Amm to rise again? )Temp = 29C PH = again 7.5???
Day 5: Amm = 2ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 0.50ppm Na = 5.0ppm Well done tank 2!
Day 6: Amm = 2ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 5.0 Na = 20ppm
Day 7: OK...one week in and results are GREAT!
Amm = 0.25ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 5.0ppm Na = 20.0ppm
indeed we have a spike!!
**Day 8**: Amm = 0ppm Temp = 29C Ni = 0ppm Na = 10ppm
Indeed the double zero's.....yayyyyyyyyy
Now added 2ml of Ammonia...went to 3ppm..added another 0.2ml..up to 4ppm...
now we wait......
pm test (12 hrs later) Amm = 2ppm Ni = 2.0ppm Na = 30ppm
Day 9: Amm = 1.0ppm Ni = between 2-5ppm Na = 80ppm ()
pm test PH = 7.6 Amm = 0.25ppm Ni = 5.0ppm Na = 40-80ppm ()
**Day 10**!!!: More double 0's... Amm = 0 Ni = 0 Na = 20ppm
added 1.4ml of Ammonia = 3ppm...roll on 12 hrs!!
PM test : Amm = 0.25 Ni = 2-5ppm Na = 40ppm Looking good!!
bumped Amm back up to 2ppm (added 1ml ammonia)....roll on morning!!
Day 11: Amm = 0.25ppm Ni = 2-5ppm Na = 40ppm
bumped back up to 3ppm with 1.4ml of Ammonia.
PM test (12H): Amm = 0 Ni = 2.0ppm Na = 40-80ppm ..... BUT......PH has dropped to 6.4
Added 1tsp of Bicarb to up PH and 2ml of Ammonia to take it up to 3ppm.
Day 12: Amm = 0.25 Ni = 5ppm (SPIKE) Na = 80-160ppm (spike) PH = 7.3 (after bumping with the Bi-carb)
added 2ml Ammonia -> took it to 2ppm.
QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS....know now to only add ammonia every 24hrs NOT 12hrs!!
pm tests showed PH = Buffered to 8.0 with Bicarb Amm = 0ppm Ni = 2-5ppm Na = 80ppm
added 2ml of Ammonia bumped up to 2-3ppm (want to do ammonia bumps in the eve as i have more time then)
Day 13: Amm = 0.25ppm Ni = N/T (as off the scale) Na = 80ppm PH = 7.4 (fallen since last night)
**pm tests** (24hrs since dose) show Amm = 0 Ni = 0 Na = 80ppm PH 8.0 (DOUBLE 0'S again)
so its clearing 3ppm in 24hrs.
dosed with 1.2ml of Ammonia to take it up to.....3ppm
**Day 14**: Amm = 0ppm Ni = 0.25ppm (oooh nearly) Na = 80ppm PH = 7.4
pm tests not done as i was out..not dosed.
**Day 15**: Amm = 0ppm Ni = 0ppm Na = 80ppm PH = 8.0
pm..no readings taken...but added 1.2ml Ammonia
Day 16: (12hrs post dose) Amm = 0 Ni = 2ppm Na = 80-160ppm
**pm tests** show(24hrs post dose) Amm = 0 Ni = 0ppm Na = 80-160ppm PH = 8.0 (stabilized) dosed with 2.7ml of Ammonia....4ppm
Day 17: (12hrs) Amm = 1ppm Ni = 5+ppm Na = 80-160ppm (groan)
pm tests(24hrs) Amm = 0 Ni = 5+ppm Na = 80-160ppm (nitrite still spiking)
Dosed with 2.5ml of Ammonia
OOOppppps i bought another tank.......60L, gravel substrate with used media in a fluval 2+ filter. 100w heater and a shark air stone, fake plant and a pirate sword.
Tank 3: initial readings after dechlorination... Amm = 0 Ni = 0 Na = 0 (as expected)
dosed with 2ml of ammonia to take it to 4ppm...24 hr tests begin.
NB: tank has no heater yet..but filled with warm water .. will get heater asap.
NNB: tank came with snails!!! ugh!
Day 2: Amm = 3ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0 ( dont think this filter was cycled..or they cleaned it VERY WELL )
pm tests not done as i was out...not dosed
Day 3: Amm = 3-4ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0.25 (again dark yellow, but not orange)
pm...no readings done as probably little change. NOT DOSED
Day 4: Amm = 3-4ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0.25ppm PH = 7.4 ( still need the Amm to drop)
pm.... Amm = 3-4ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0.25ppm PH = 7.4 (no change) NOT DOSED
Day 5: Amm = 3-4ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0.25ppm PH = 7.4 (no change)
pm.... Amm = 3-4ppm Ni = 0 Na = 0.25ppm PH = 8.0 (no change apart from PH) NOT DOSED
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