Guppy Emergancy!

Heyas

Noticed yesterday that 2 of my female guppies were missing alot of their scales, and 1 of them had dropped its tail to a funny angle.

This morning one of them was dead at the bottom of the tank. The other is still freeswimming happily but looks awful. My other fully grown female is totally fine. The tank is full of guppy fry aswel (it is my segregation tank) and I dont want to lose any of the fry None of them look as though they have the same issue.

I've treated the water this morning with Prime to see if it helps. Does anyone have any idea what may be happening? It doesn't look like whitespot or Ich. The females are a couple of years old I'm estimating, is it possible they're just reaching the end of the road? The one who died this morning just dropped a load of fry not more than a couple of days ago.

The best way to descibe how they look, is if when I fish dies, the others have a pick at it and the scales fall off.

Any ideas anyone? Will be most appreciated

Size of tank in gallons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia,nitrite,nitrate, and ph.
Missing scales mean, poor water quality, knocked them off on ornament, parasites to bacterial.
Check the fish body over with a magifying glass to see if you can see anything.
Any laboured breathing or flicking and rubbing.
Any sores or puncture wounds on the fish.
Has the fish gone pale.

Heres a pic of the still living female. Looks like her tail is doing what the other one did

I dont have another tank that I can seperate her into, and I figure if its a disease, all of the fry etc will have it anyway

Wilder said:

Size of tank in gallons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia,nitrite,nitrate, and ph.
Missing scales mean, poor water quality, knocked them off on ornament, parasites to bacterial.
Check the fish body over with a magifying glass to see if you can see anything.
Any laboured breathing or flicking and rubbing.
Any sores or puncture wounds on the fish.
Has the fish gone pale.

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20 Litre tank, 2 Female Fully grown Guppies and approx 20 fry ranging in sizes. Cant do a water check as I've added Prime, but the last check a week ago showed 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrites and very little Nitrates so the Cycle isn't the issue. The breathing of the ill Guppies is faster than the others. Haven't noticed them rubbing and cant see anything under magnifying glass. No sores or puncture wounds. Her tail has split slightly. Shes gone slightly pale as per the pic

Any signs of a bent spine, fish losing weight.


I would go in with a bacterial med.
Keep a look out for these symtoms, if she not flicking and rubbing dosn't sound like a parasite.
http/www.4qd.org/Aqua/disease/tb.html

Spine isn't bent, shes swimming round fine. Doesn't appear to have lost weight, however I did notice that the one which died was quite thin, but I assumed thats because she had just dropped her fry

Yes they can go thin after fry, being thin can mean flukes, internal parasites to fish tb.
Not flukes as they would be flicking.
Internal parasites worms prutruding from the anus, enlarged anus, red and inflamed anus, long stringy white poo, can also look like mucas.

What do you mean by flicking?

Where the fish rubs or flicks it's body on things in the tank like plants and ornaments.

They don't seem to be flicking that i've noticed. Is it possible they've rubbed up against the heater and thats caused it?

Just keep an eye on her, got to go now sorry tired.

Thanks heaps for your help!